Big Link Algo Update Coming?

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http://searchengineland.com/too-muc...-“over-optimization”-penalty-for-that-115627?


"What about the people optimizing really hard and doing a lot of SEO. We don’t normally pre-announce changes but there is something we are working in the last few months and hope to release it in the next months or few weeks. We are trying to level the playing field a bit. All those people doing, for lack of a better word, over optimization or overly SEO – versus those making great content and great site. We are trying to make GoogleBot smarter, make our relevance better, and we are also looking for those who abuse it, like too many keywords on a page, or exchange way too many links or go well beyond what you normally expect. We have several engineers on my team working on this right now."

He mentions them working on this new algorithm a couple of times throughout the audio.And when they refer to "over optimizing", im pretty sure theyre talking about with links - because it was in the context of mom and pop vs big guys, and bugets.. and we know that google has not really looked towards keyword density for ranking factors in a while, which is the example he was using to describe over-optimizing.

Also. Bing mentioned them putting more weight on social influencing rankings and even sites that are well or "over-optimized", but dont have great social signals, wont rank as high.
 


I doubt a big algorithm change is coming. SEO's one of those businesses that only changes once every 50 years or so, and even then the stuff you learned 500 years ago is just as relevant.
 
Wait, so Google is now saying that they want to serve their users results that feature the best content on the web? What an incredible, radical departure from what they usually say, which is "If you put up a piece of shit website, and buy a lot of links, you'll get rich".

I guess I need to adjust my budget and buy better content from here on out.
 
Every time I see Fatt Gutts or hear of some new propaganda from him I just want to punch him in his fat face.

I think we should organize an angry mob, storm Google HQ stick one these up Fatt Gutts ass and use him as a Piñata.

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(You reading Matt? I want to stick that up your poop shoot and string you from a tree and smack you with a large stick! Repeatedly).
 
I agree they do always want you to think 'its coming", maybe I am just being sucked in by the propaganda this time lol He was pretty convincing
 
How to catch people actively gaming the algos:

1- Announce an algo change to certain things.

2- See who tones down their sites

3- Catch the evil SEOs

What I can't figure is why on earth you'd take your enemy's word at face value!
 
http://searchengineland.com/too-muc...-“over-optimization”-penalty-for-that-115627?


"What about the people optimizing really hard and doing a lot of SEO. We don’t normally pre-announce changes but there is something we are working in the last few months and hope to release it in the next months or few weeks. We are trying to level the playing field a bit. All those people doing, for lack of a better word, over optimization or overly SEO – versus those making great content and great site. We are trying to make GoogleBot smarter, make our relevance better, and we are also looking for those who abuse it, like too many keywords on a page, or exchange way too many links or go well beyond what you normally expect. We have several engineers on my team working on this right now."

He mentions them working on this new algorithm a couple of times throughout the audio.And when they refer to "over optimizing", im pretty sure theyre talking about with links - because it was in the context of mom and pop vs big guys, and bugets.. and we know that google has not really looked towards keyword density for ranking factors in a while, which is the example he was using to describe over-optimizing.

Also. Bing mentioned them putting more weight on social influencing rankings and even sites that are well or "over-optimized", but dont have great social signals, wont rank as high.


hello negative seo again. the cycle continues. forever.
 
Meh. If it were really true, then it totally lights up negative SEO. Instead of pushing your site up, you buy links to over optimize everyone ranking higher than you.
 
It's going to be links, the onpage crowd are the guys who follow Matt Cutts and Rand Fishkin around at conferences. No one is going to catch shit for too relevant titles or well written metas.

Looks like eliquid's gonna be a busy man.
LMAO

Meh. If it were really true, then it totally lights up negative SEO. Instead of pushing your site up, you buy links to over optimize everyone ranking higher than you.
Not if they just devalue links on sites they deem over-optimized.
 
Devaluing links SHOULD be the way to go, unfortunately it seems like people are actually getting penalized for over-optimized anchor/velocity/networks lately though...not simply links devalued.

Thoughts?
 
Devaluing links SHOULD be the way to go, unfortunately it seems like people are actually getting penalized for over-optimized anchor/velocity/networks lately though...not simply links devalued.

Thoughts?

I think for most people there is no difference since the vast majority of their backlinks are shitty. A devaluation is the same as a penalty to them.
 
Would everyone be dropping in such similar incrments if it was purely devaulation though?

I agree with you to an extent, but aren't the increments people are being downgraded to indicating some sort of a penalty ie -50 etc.

Would people all end up in a similar no where's land if links were JUST devalued? You'd think some people would still be ranking alright for those targeted terms (others with better links in addition)...just not necessarily front page. And you'd also think the websites should react to additional quality linkbuilding if their poor quality/over-optimized links were simply devalued. This does not seem to be the case from reports I'm reading...which makes me wonder.