Burn the Qu'ran Day

[nanexo]

Muslims on the other hand were following exactly what their holy book suggests - spread religion by the sword.

Did you even Read the Quran? I have no words to describe the depth of your ignorance

And as far as Christianity is concerned Jesus never once made a call for violence.

I believe the bible has been changed many times according to what times and different rulers needed to increase their power and effect of authority one of the reasons why the revalation of the Quran came and why it had only 1 author and was never changed henceforward..anyway

That said .. violence is no stranger to the bible ( whoever the author was it is on nearly all verses ) https://docs.google.com/document/ed...uxsH8i-KoiSjGxtX1Uirns&hl=en&authkey=CKCR78oJ

Disclaimer I do not believe these represent the true first intentions and writings of the bible as it has been changed to many times to tell what was originally said but I show it here merely as reference

 

[Boss]

[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Aisha bint Abu Bakr[/FONT]

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[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Started living with the prophet at the age of 9.[/FONT]​

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[Unarmed Gunman]

If you are going to quote current day definitions to make your case it is important then to point out that rape is sex without consent, as children do not have the ability to give consent (or to even understand sex which is necessary for consent), all sex with children is rape and therefore child abuse.

As the author does not argue that Mohammed did not have sex with Aisha (unless this is implied elsewhere, I do not have the details or knowledge), he is by using this definition of child abuse (as to include rape) and the understood definition of rape (as to be sex without consent), inadvertently demonstrating that child abuse did take place.

If he wants to argue that child abuse did not take place, he should argue that there were no sexual relations between Mohammed and Aisha because sex with a child is always child abuse.

^^^This. Your explanation sounds like you're justifying sex with a 9 year-old. Mohammad was a treejumper - that's fucked up bro.

 

[nanexo]

If you are going to quote current day definitions to make your case it is important then to point out that rape is sex without consent, as children do not have the ability to give consent (or to even understand sex which is necessary for consent), all sex with children is rape and therefore child abuse.

As the author does not argue that Mohammed did not have sex with Aisha (unless this is implied elsewhere, I do not have the details or knowledge), he is by using this definition of child abuse (as to include rape) and the understood definition of rape (as to be sex without consent), inadvertently demonstrating that child abuse did take place.

If he wants to argue that child abuse did not take place, he should argue that there were no sexual relations between Mohammed and Aisha because sex with a child is always child abuse.

Off course the author assumes he did NOT he mentions he ( Mohammed ) never did any of the above when he summarized the list

And you assume based on the lack of direct writing of such that it is the opposite? based on? what? an odd/even number of cookies stuffed in your lp's?

it is like saying the absence of saying "there is a God" when we talk about God that there is definetely none? or the scientist not talking but not directly implying in string theory the existence of gravity particles/waves that in fact they can never be found or are def. there ?

 

[nanexo]

anyway haters gonna hate - gtg and make some moniez - will be reading again tomorrow if there are any founded arguments

 

[hellblazer]

is burning a privately owned american flag "anti-american"?

The American ideal is freedom. If it's your property, you can do whatever you want with it.

If Islam as a political and religious system infringes upon American ideals of freedom(women's right to vote, freedom of religion), then it is inherently anti-American.

These people are burning their copies of the Koran to make the point that Islam is inherently anti-American.

Your mistake is assuming that "freedom of religion" means accepting all religions, even if they directly conflict with American principles of freedom of speech, religion, etc.. No. It doesn't work that way. You don't exploit our freedoms in order to subvert our freedoms. Only a suicidal retard would accept that.

Islam demands conversion by the sword, second-class status for women, and death for unbelievers. That's what sharia law is. You libs are simply watered down versions of European secularists, whose godless values have left them so confused they're helping the Islamic hordes tighten the noose around their own throat. Look at Sweden - there's areas that police and ambulances can't even go into because they're totally taken over. Europe's done, the U.K. actually allows Muslims to follow their own law(within their own country, unheard of).

It's such an obvious takeover I don't know how you don't see it. It's expertly designed, funded by the Saudis, and working perfectly. You guys are deceived by the propaganda, their agenda moves forward, Europe's perhaps a decade from being totally swallowed up, and it's slowly coming to the U.S. But I don't expect useful idiots like you to see it through the prism of truth until someone you care about is affected, and even then maybe not.

 

[conv3rsion]

Off course the author assumes he did NOT he mentions he ( Mohammed ) never did any of the above when he summarized the list

And you assume based on the lack of direct writing of such that it is the opposite? based on? what? an odd/even number of cookies stuffed in your lp's?

it is like saying the absence of saying "there is a God" when we talk about God that there is definetely none? or the scientist not talking but not directly implying in string theory the existence of gravity particles/waves that in fact they can never be found or are def. there ?

are you going to completely dodge my question about current day marriage practices in islam?

 

[zingo]

burn baby burn.. join in the chant..

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Lies, lies, lies, lies
Gold, gold, gold, gold
Guns, guns, guns, guns
Fire, fire, fire

Gold, gold, gold, gold
Church, church, church, church
Guns, guns, guns, guns
Fire, fire, fire

Muscle and hate
Muscle and hate
Muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle

Lies, lies, lies, lies
Books, books, books, books
Burn, burn, burn, burn
Fire, fire, fire

Church, church, church, church
Gold, gold, gold, gold
Guns, guns, guns, guns
Fire, fire, fire

 

[conv3rsion]

The American ideal is freedom. If it's your property, you can do whatever you want with it.

If Islam as a political and religious system infringes upon American ideals of freedom(women's right to vote, freedom of religion), then it is inherently anti-American.

These people are burning their copies of the Koran to make the point that Islam is inherently anti-American.

Your mistake is assuming that "freedom of religion" means accepting all religions, even if they directly conflict with American principles of freedom of speech, religion, etc.. No. It doesn't work that way. You don't exploit our freedoms in order to subvert our freedoms. Only a suicidal retard would accept that.

Islam demands conversion by the sword, second-class status for women, and death for unbelievers. That's what sharia law is. You libs are simply watered down versions of European secularists, whose godless values have left them so confused they're helping the Islamic hordes tighten the noose around their own throat. Look at Sweden - there's areas that police and ambulances can't even go into because they're totally taken over. Europe's done, the U.K. actually allows Muslims to follow their own law(within their own country, unheard of).

It's such an obvious takeover I don't know how you don't see it. It's expertly designed, funded by the Saudis, and working perfectly. You guys are deceived by the propaganda, their agenda moves forward, Europe's perhaps a decade from being totally swallowed up, and it's slowly coming to the U.S. But I don't expect useful idiots like you to see it through the prism of truth.

burning an american flag, while obviously allowed under our freedoms, is anti-american.

Its a sad day when conservatives won't state that burning an american flag is anti-american. its also a sad day when you will say that protecting someone's freedom of religion (whether it be by frowning about the destruction of their religious texts or their right to assemble wherever) is dangerous because some extremists followers (read: manipulators) of that religion have suckered you into the exact ideological war they are hoping to wage.

Congrats on playing into their hand. Sheep.

 

[HustlinHard]

How does defending what you believe in now equals that their/our ( now it is only their God and not ours? ) God likes violence? Added I did not even mention honor this is your subjection

- THIS IS Non sequitur

FYI Muslims sincerely believe in choice and do not feel bound to do any such acts but the fact is a lot DO and this IS consequence and this is even calculable and predictable consequence - meaning - If ever we were to live in harmony we should not offend another on purpose and then say you cant hit me back because it is my freedom to offend you.

It is like spitting someone in his face and then not expecting the person to hit you back cause hitting is illegal and spitting is not and thus you should have the freedom to do so ( WTF right? ).

What if humans only knew good and could not have a choice between good and bad, would love then not exist, would they all fear? no it would florish? again you fail to convince me

I tried ignore this thread as much as possible, but your completely backwards and uneducated thinking was too ridiculous. You sound like someone with a complete lack of any critical thinking ability, blindly following this ideology that was passed down in the form of tradition. Leave your emotions out of it and really think about what it is that you believe.

My biggest gripe with Islam is the violence and overall negativity that radiates anywhere that this religion does. You sound reasonably educated, can't you see how much fucking violence this crap has caused? Do you truly feel the positivity outweighs the negativity?

The fundamental flaw in Islam is leaving too many concepts up for interpretation. For example as you mentioned, muslims are allowed to use violence to defend themselves and their beliefs if they are in danger, given that there are no other choices. Now at first glance this seems reasonable, but if you understand the human mind at little better you realize it's completely fucked up. What exactly constitutes "in danger"? how about "no other choices"? If I get into an argument with a muslim at the grocery store and in the spur of the moment said in that "I'd kill him if I ever saw him again", would that be enough for him to justify killing me in "defense"? Humans are great at rationalizing things islam provides too many ways of justifying the wrong things, so much that the majority of people who practice it, exploit it into working for them.

Take a step back and look at the fucking world, then tell me whether islam is good or not. It's just like testing a campaign, you throw up a fuckload of ad variations, throw enough impressions at them to figure out whether any convert, and if nothings happening, you ditch the fucker and move on.

 

[MadMaxNine]

Wait, so If Mohammed were alive today he'd be a convicted felon serving time for statutory rape and polygamy... and If Jesus were alive today he'd be serving time for.. *head scratch*...

 

[hellblazer]

burning an american flag is anti-american...

There's nothing anti-American about burning a piece of cloth. What is anti-American is burning what that flag represents, i.e. what Islam does by denying women equal voting rights and denying non-Muslims religious freedom. THAT'S anti-American.

some extremists followers (read: manipulators) of that religion have suckered you into the exact ideological war they are hoping to wage.

Keep minimizing the threat and telling yourself it poses no danger, until the day you wake up to the call to prayer over the loudspeaker, more and more veiled women on the streets, increased attacks on infidels, and pockets of America accepting sharia law. When that happens, keep telling yourself it's just "some" extremists and fringe figures.

Saudi Arabia is the main funding source for most terrorist brainwashing centers, and we're helping them cut our throats by sending them billions in oil dollars. Think about that next time you try to delude yourself into thinking this is some disorganized, paltry attempt by a few "extremists".

 

[zingo]

I have to question anyone that worships a pedophile.

All hail Mohammad the Pedophile..

Please try to rationalize this someone.. I want to here.. all ears

Suck Fucker...

Muhammed - The Pedophile

[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr thought it was
improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by
saying that it was perfectly lawful for him to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIH BUKHAR I7:18].

[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .

[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd 1pg165 ].

Mohammad also liked his "redwings" it seems.

[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for sex. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than average potency.[/FONT]
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[subigo]

Keep minimizing the threat and telling yourself it poses no danger, until the day you wake up to the call to prayer over the loudspeaker, more and more veiled women on the streets, increased attacks on infidels, and pockets of America accepting sharia law.

lol..... lolololol......

You people.

 

[justo_tx]

I believe the bible has been changed many times according to what times and different rulers needed to increase their power and effect of authority one of the reasons why the revalation of the Quran came and why it had only 1 author and was never changed henceforward..anyway

It's as naive to think that the Quran hasn't been translated or interpreted to meet the agendas of man over the last 700 years as it is to think the Bible hasn't been translated or interpreted to meet the agendas of man over the last 2000 years. The faithful of both religions believe their books to be inerrant.

 

[ly2 from WF]

The Bible has more calls to violence in it than the Koran does. It goes both ways.

To someone like me they are no different.

Small problem there, christians don't follow through with the shit, muslims do.

 

[hellblazer]

Small problem there, christians don't follow through with the shit, muslims do.

No, actually the "small problem" is that the Bible repudiates the violence in the New Testament, meaning Christians are advocated not to do violence. But don't expect to hear that from one of these Bible scholars.

 

[subigo]

No, actually the "small problem" is that the Bible repudiates the violence in the New Testament, meaning Christians are advocated not to do violence. But don't expect to hear that from one of these Bible scholars.

lol. Then you haven't read the NT.

 

[LotsOfZeros]

What this thread needs is a little humor so I'm posting a little funny (not mine, can't take credit for this).

Comedian Greg Gutfled had the following commentary on his show "Red Eye" last night...

So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it's all about strengthening the
relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.

As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque - after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law - who can stop them?

Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I've decided to do the same thing.

I'm announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding
and tolerance.

As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will
feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps - but still want to dance.

Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero is no different than mine.

My place, however, will have better music.

Some proposed names...

The Queer'an

Gaybraham's

Mohammie's Retreat

The 72nd virgin

Jihad Me at Hello

The Gay Allahs

Allahu Gaybar

The Sphinx-ter

Queer Eye for the Jihad Guy

The Homo Side Bomber

Jihad's and Rods

Weapons of Ass Destruction

Allahs in Wonderland

Midnight at the Oasis

Mecca inn & out

SCUD Marks

Khomeini Men, Kholittle Time

Mo's Hole

Allah Akbar and Grill

Osama bin Dover

 

[zingo]

What this thread needs is a little humor so I'm posting a little funny (not mine, can't take credit for this).

Good find!

Love and Tolerance to all ..