Burn the Qu'ran Day



Burning a flag is un-American.

Preventing someone from burning a flag is more un-American.

Islam isn't the problem. The problem is primitivism, tribalism and the lack of any hope of bettering yourselves other than by destroying others.
 
subigo said:
lol. Then you haven't read the NT.
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I've read the NT. And like I said.. Jesus himself never once called for violence and always encouraged peace IN EVERY SITUATION.

If you're refering to revelations it's well known that that book was written well after Jesus existed by a guy named John. And even then the book might say that all unbelievers will burn but I don't think it ever says take up arms against the unbelievers. And when the Quran says take up arms against the unbelievers it's not some battle story (like in the old testament).. its the author (prophet Mohammad) talking directly to the readers, giving them explicit directions! It's a direct handbook.

Every direct quote from JC was peaceful. This is surprising considering there are 4+ different authors writing down what he supposedly said.

It's dangerous to lump all religions into the exact same category just because you're probably a non-believer, like me.

Multiculturalism is great unless you're encouraging a culture whose goal it is to end multiculturalism.
 
subigo said:
lol. Then you haven't read the NT.
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Very true. The Bible is full of logical flaws, errors and outright mistakes.

It's always been amazing to me that otherwise intelligent people follow a religion based on a book that's built from a few dozen ancient writings scribbled down by primitive peoples, torn up, re-written, lost, found, translated, re-written and then re-written for popular consumption.

The sooner we focus on promoting mankind and our interests as a species, the faster we can get away from this idiotic worship of an imaginary, magical sky-wizard - whatever his name.
 
Solution: Make Subigo 'King of the World'

Did you know "subigo" is latin for "to put down and conquer all" and "Eric" means "ever powerful one ruler"? I've already got the names, so, half way there you know.
 
Ar Scion said:
Here's the deal though- you gotta differentiate between Islamic extremism and moderate Islam.

Just like theres regular atheists and there's shittarded militant atheists who don't care about being reasonable and logical.

Lumping everybody together makes everybody uncomfortable, and moderate Muslims who are bullied will only turn to extremism because mainstream America has rejected them.
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So making fun of moderate muslims will turn them radical?? Is this only a phenomenon that occurs in the muslim community. Are they so backward and thin skinned that we must protect them from mockery?

Jews and Christians to a greater extent are mocked daily on tv and the internet. Does this turn them into blood thirsty savages ready to cut the heads off anyone that draws a cartoon of Jesus?
 
WickedJoe said:
I've read the NT. And like I said.. Jesus himself never once called for violence and always encouraged peace IN EVERY SITUATION.

Blah blah blah

Every direct quote from JC was peaceful.
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This is simply not true, although I'm quoting from, again, a bunch of mismatched translations from scribblings by primitive savages.

Jesus calls for the burning of the unfaithful as much as the Koran does, if not more. Unbelievers are to be "hewn down" and cast into the fire. Does that sound peaceful?

Jesus also believed that people are cripples because they sinned somehow and god is punishing them.

Jesus was kind of a prick.
 
popeye said:
So making fun of moderate muslims will turn them radical?? Is this only a phenomenon that occurs in the muslim community. Are they so backward and thin skinned that we must protect them from mockery?

Jews and Christians to a greater extent are mocked daily on tv and the internet. Does this turn them into blood thirsty savages ready to cut the heads off anyone that draws a cartoon of Jesus?
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Mockery is good for "people of the book." It tests their faith and brings them closer to god.
 
jdomaha said:
Very true. The Bible is full of logical flaws, errors and outright mistakes.

It's always been amazing to me that otherwise intelligent people follow a religion based on a book that's built from a few dozen ancient writings scribbled down by primitive peoples, torn up, re-written, lost, found, translated, re-written and then re-written for popular consumption.

The sooner we focus on promoting mankind and our interests as a species, the faster we can get away from this idiotic worship of an imaginary, magical sky-wizard - whatever his name.
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The best post I have seen in ages...
 
jdomaha said:
This is simply not true, although I'm quoting from, again, a bunch of mismatched translations from scribblings by primitive savages.

Jesus calls for the burning of the unfaithful as much as the Koran does, if not more. Unbelievers are to be "hewn down" and cast into the fire. Does that sound peaceful?

Jesus also believed that people are cripples because they sinned somehow and god is punishing them.

Jesus was kind of a prick.
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Your grasping for straws with the "hewn down" phrase. You didn't even quote it right.. it doesn't say shit about unbelievers. You should look that one up and see what it really means.

But I'm not going to sit around defending JC all day. From what I've read and seen JC was as peaceful as they come, JC's followers are usually the pricks.

Comparing JC to a Warlord who personally beheaded 500-800 people is just foolish.
 
subigo said:
I'm just gonna stick these here... because, you know, there are no Christian terrorist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(USA)
The Lambs of Christ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Concerned Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hutaree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christian Patriot movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I don't think you really want to start comparing lists of terror groups and terror acts. If you do, let me know and I'll play along. You can post a christian terrorist act or group and for each one you post I'll post 100 muslim terror acts.

If you wanna do it, lets roll. Otherwise, stop comparing christians and muslims because there is no comparison and you fucking know it.
 
Same fucking bullshit arguments as is in the "near ground zero Mosque" thread.

Is burning the Qu'ran right? That's for you to decide. I don't give a shit. Is it legal? Yes.

So long as it is legal, who gives a fuck if it's "right".

Some will bash the Mosque due to it not being "right", and then support burning Qu'rans since it's "legal". Fuck, both are legal, neither are "right" to everyone, but fuck it, both should be allowed with none of this bullshit arguing about what's "right" in America these days.
 
ly2 from WF said:
Otherwise, stop comparing christians and muslims because there is no comparison and you fucking know it.
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This. Anybody who is trying to compare the two and their acts of violence over the past 35 years, as far as I am concerned, is just lying to themselves.
 
WickedJoe said:
This is actually my point. I believe you're wrong. Extremism, violence, and militant behavior is actually built right into the koran. It's a huge part of their religion. This is why it should not be respected.

We just talked about this in another thread but you should check this documentary out at nexflix streaming or a torrent.

Islam: What the West Needs to Know (2006)

Nothing said in there is false, and the quotes from Islamic texts can be found anywhere. Watch that and then talk to me.
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If violence and militancy is the problem let's dissolve the US. We spend too much money, train too many of our men, and exert too much of our will through "violence and militancy".

Heck, we talk a lot about committing acts of violence on WickedFire. Let's get rid of it too.

This is the US. We can handle a little shit talk, whether it comes on an internet forum or the quran. We're badass like that.
 
adigitalorange said:
This. Anybody who is trying to compare the two and their acts of violence over the past 35 years, as far as I am concerned, is just lying to themselves.
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lol... 35 years.

Fuck your 35 years. I'm going on a 2k year timescale. Just because I wasn't alive doesn't mean it didn't happen. If Christians and Muslims want to live their lives based on something that happened 1k and 2k years ago, I damn well will bring up the things that those groups have done in that time period.

You can say, "well right now, blah blah blah". Screw that, you worship something ancient, you're get lumped in with all that is ancient as well.
 
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