Earn Ripple XRP for doing research with your computing power

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One of the big downsides of mining Bitcoins and altcoins is the enormous waste of computing power and electricity. Ripple has come out with a scheme to use some of that computing power to do good by way of scientific research through the World Community Grid project. You can donate your computing power towards any number of research projects and earn XRP as a result. I only just signed up, so I can't say much about the amount you can earn, but if you're interested in giving it a try visit:

https://www.computingforgood.org
https://ripple.com/
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People who call bitcoin mining a "waste of computing power and electricity" are soon to be the exact equivalent of people in 1900 who protested automobiles because they were unnecessarily fast and made too much noise.

Can't wait for the rest of the world to get the joke too...
 
People who call bitcoin mining a "waste of computing power and electricity" are soon to be the exact equivalent of people in 1900 who protested automobiles because they were unnecessarily fast and made too much noise.

Can't wait for the rest of the world to get the joke too...

That's a pretty dumb analogy man.

I'm not belittling the merits of Bitcoins, except to say mining is a ridiculous waste of computing power and electricity, and it's only going to get worse as time goes by. As BTC become exponentially more difficult to mine, it's going to require more and more computing power to be thrown at the network to earn a share of fewer and fewer coins.

You have the most powerful computing network in the world sucking back about $15,000,000 a day in electricity, currently providing little benefit except to a handful of speculators. All that power could be put to better use solving important scientific puzzles related to biology, physics and the universe for the betterment of mankind.
 
I'm not belittling the merits of Bitcoins, except to say mining is a ridiculous waste of computing power and electricity, and it's only going to get worse as time goes by.

Waste implies that there is no purpose, but there is. Every additional hash makes it harder for an entity to control / modify the network.

As BTC become exponentially more difficult to mine, it's going to require more and more computing power to be thrown at the network to earn a share of fewer and fewer coins.

Difficulty is decided by the amount of hashing power, not vice-versa. The reward for solving a block declines on a fixed schedule, of course the amount of electricity / mining hardware those reward bitcoins buys over time could go up or down, since most stuff is denominated in dollars / euros etc.

If costs rose, some miners would no longer be profitable, and would bow out, leaving only the most efficient left to mine.

You have the most powerful computing network in the world sucking back about $15,000,000 a day in electricity, currently providing little benefit except to a handful of speculators. All that power could be put to better use solving important scientific puzzles related to biology, physics and the universe for the betterment of mankind.

The network and miners don't care why transactions happen, just that they get paid. Saying that someone else's resources / money has a better use implies intrinsic value, who are you to decide what a miner should use his resources for?
 
I`ve got World Community Grid mapping cancer markers as we speak.

I`m not pro or anti any particular coin, but I don`t have the resources to mine most coins unless they literally just came out. Mining Bitcoins - no chance of me getting in on that now.

Don`t know if XRP has much chance of becoming very big, but it`s one I can get in on more easily.
 
Waste implies that there is no purpose, but there is. Every additional hash makes it harder for an entity to control / modify the network.

Sure there's a purpose, but currently it's for the benefit of very few people and the detriment of many.

Difficulty is decided by the amount of hashing power, not vice-versa.

Yes, I know this, thank you. As long as the value of bitcoins continues to rise, more and more people will continue to commit more and more higher powered hardware to mining.

The reward for solving a block declines on a fixed schedule, of course the amount of electricity / mining hardware those reward bitcoins buys over time could go up or down, since most stuff is denominated in dollars / euros etc.

If costs rose, some miners would no longer be profitable, and would bow out, leaving only the most efficient left to mine.

Yup, and many have bowed out of mining btc, only to commit the older, more power hungry gear, to mining altcoins (I'm doing this myself). Meanwhile others are buying up thousands of TH/s boxes as soon as they go on sale. Once those become obsolete, within a few months of purchasing them, then we'll see boxes 100 times more powerful than the last, then PH/s boxes or whatever comes next. This isn't going to slow down any time in the near future, as long as the reward is there.

Then you've got people building custom shipping container sized miners The secret Hong Kong facility that uses boiling goo to mine Bitcoins | The Verge

The network and miners don't care why transactions happen, just that they get paid. Saying that someone else's resources / money has a better use implies intrinsic value, who are you to decide what a miner should use his resources for?

Who am I to decide? Wow, I didn't know I had such powers! I'm pretty sure I can say whatever the fuck I want though.

You guys are getting your willies all in a knot. I simply offered an alternative altcoin to mine that has the added benefit of doing something useful for all of mankind. You can take it or leave it.
 
I simply offered an alternative altcoin to mine that has the added benefit of doing something useful for all of mankind. You can take it or leave it.

Just to be clear, Ripple isn't actually a cryptocoin and you don't actually mine it. The 100 billion Ripple that exist were just spawned (or whatever) by the creators.
 
Just to be clear, Ripple isn't actually a cryptocoin and you don't actually mine it. The 100 billion Ripple that exist were just spawned (or whatever) by the creators.

Fair enough.

It is being listed on popular crypto-currency websites right beside all the other cryptocoins Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Ripple Litecoin MasterCoin Peercoin Namecoin Quark ProtoShares WorldCoin Megacoin and more...

While it might not be mined in the same way, you get rewarded XRP for doing computational work.

It's an interesting alternative anyway. I'll report back as to how profitable it has been after running for 24 hours compared to some of the other coins I've been mining.
 
People who call bitcoin mining a "waste of computing power and electricity" are soon to be the exact equivalent of people in 1900 who protested automobiles because they were unnecessarily fast and made too much noise.

Can't wait for the rest of the world to get the joke too...

This is why we don't smoke crack children....
 
People who call bitcoin mining a "waste of computing power and electricity" are soon to be the exact equivalent of people in 1900 who protested automobiles because they were unnecessarily fast and made too much noise.

Can't wait for the rest of the world to get the joke too...

Luke, can you just pull your head out of your own ass for half a minute please, and take a look around?

Man, your blind optimism is ridiculous at times.
 
The computing power IS a waste, I don't care what you say. It's needed because they haven't felt the need to migrate to a better/new system.

Primecoin on the other hand does somewhat-useful calculations by solving cunningham chains. Primecoin was entered into the record books 3 times in 2013 by producing new chains.


As a side note, it looks like our board of directors may approve our new altcoin intorduction. A altcoin backed by hard assets.
 
OH WUT U SAY M8S?!

hey lukep... fatbat, jeffrey, and kioppa matt just called you a little bitch. are you gonna take it up the ass like a little girl, or are you gonna drop some balls on em like a man??

oh snap its a wickedbrawl. i dunno who to put my monies on
 
That's a pretty dumb analogy man.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, man, but you did write it down in a public place and are arguing for it here so just be prepared to be laughed at in a few years time when everyone will compare you to a complainer-of-progress in 1900.


I'm not belittling the merits of Bitcoins, except to say mining is a ridiculous waste of computing power and electricity, and it's only going to get worse as time goes by.
It will suck back more power all the time; of this I have no doubt and I actually welcome.

But to call that power suck a waste is to not see the implications of what it allows for.

I remember people complaining that the web was going to be a huge waste of power too. Total deja vu time.


You have the most powerful computing network in the world sucking back about $15,000,000 a day in electricity, currently providing little benefit except to a handful of speculators.
It's currently providing more value than you see, but more importantly, what this embryonic phase will produce is something far larger that will benefit every single person on earth far more than you'd imagine.

Yes, it will still be a huge energy suck... But one that no one complains about anymore, like the web is today.


All that power could be put to better use solving important scientific puzzles related to biology, physics and the universe for the betterment of mankind.
These uses are truly pathetic compared to what's going on with the bitcoin blockchain now. I'll stick with Satoshi's plan, thanks.


Sure there's a purpose, but currently it's for the benefit of very few people and the detriment of many.
If you don't see the benefit yet that's one thing... But how does miner usage of electricity detriment "many?"

They're paying for it, they're not stealing it, you know...



I'm pretty sure I can say whatever the fuck I want though.
We all can. We all get laughed at later for saying silly things like this too.



This is why we don't smoke crack children....
I often wonder why you keep finding yourself in these threads.


Luke, can you just pull your head out of your own ass for half a minute please, and take a look around?
Et tu, Matt?

I don't know anyone on WF with more bitcoin business going on than you... How the fuck can you not be up to speed on the ramifications of what an impervious blockchain is going to do to humanity?


The computing power IS a waste, I don't care what you say. It's needed because they haven't felt the need to migrate to a better/new system.
The altcoins will surely die in 2014 or by 2015 tops. It'll all be high-effeciency farms like the chinese one linked above ever afterwards, so the waste in older systems will grow smaller over time.


Primecoin on the other hand does somewhat-useful calculations by solving cunningham chains. Primecoin was entered into the record books 3 times in 2013 by producing new chains.
It's a cute concept, probably useful for mathematicians to know a few more prime numbers... That won't change society much, however.

As a side note, it looks like our board of directors may approve our new altcoin intorduction. A altcoin backed by hard assets.
I beg you to go read moar about this history of egold and liberty reserve... This is dangerous black magic you're dealing with bro.

Just the fact that you said that above may put you in a prison cell one day, even if they can't tie you otherwise to that future service. You need to bump up your OpSec skills just to talk about this.
 
It's currently providing more value than you see, but more importantly, what this embryonic phase will produce is something far larger that will benefit every single person on earth far more than you'd imagine.

I'm pretty sure fatbat is a proponent of most things bitcoin based on his other posts I've read. Considering alternative benefits isn't the same as bashing.

As a means of trade, btc is incredibly beneficial, nobody really questions that. But that's not the only good that can be done with this technology. The consumption of power used during mining with the only goal as eternal redundancy is wasteful. Period.

My point is: Only good (for humanity and bitcoins) can come out of converting waste into something of value to someone.