FDA slapping new warning labels on Cigarettes in the US
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Idiots that still smoke aren't going to stop because of a few pics. They'e not going to stop as the price goes up and up.
They're simply not going to stop.
Idiots. I base this purely on the long term smokers I know. There's really no reason, it doesn't even get you high.
Death cures smoking.
They're simply not going to stop.
Idiots. I base this purely on the long term smokers I know. There's really no reason, it doesn't even get you high.
Death cures smoking.
LOL, as long as you are killing yourself AND throwing your life savings away...its all good....no regulation needed.
well if we are talking about a "national health provider" then they are at least making the lines longer. so i guess i'll have to wait 6 months to see the Doc because these glorious taxpayers earned it.
I was a CHAIN SMOKER (BAD!!) and I read this book. Smoked my last cig during the second to last chapter. That was 3 years ago.
I know many HARDCORE smokers that quit with this book. I read it just because I wanted to know his method since I had heard it worked for so many hopeless addicts, I didn't even want to quit. But I did. Hallelujah!
They've been lying for years and getting away with it.
Cracks me up that they think this type of shit is effective. The problem is that government goons actually believe they are smarter than the constituents they represent.
It's a shite state of affairs.
The really funny thing is that they'll probably try to make it illegal in the next 20 years, creating an amazing new revenue stream for organized crime. I mean you can already buy cartons online cheaper than in stores because of the retarded taxes, so they're actually making people rich. Throw it into the black market and people are gonna get shot on street corners trying to buy a pack of Marlboros for $200 lol.
there is no way they will make it illegal with all the cash they are making off of it. thats like saying they'll tear down a toll booth after they pay for a road or that they'll get rid of the IRS because they hate fleecing us.
You seem to think everyone is as intelligent or thoughtful as you. Sure, it may not deter the guy who's been smoking for 20 years - but do you seriously think a 16 year old kid isn't gonna think twice after looking at a picture like that?
I think this is a great long term investment into reducing the 'cool' aspect of cigs and the number of future generation smokers - if it'll save just one kid who will take a look at the image and read the warnings and decide they'd rather not, then I'm all for it.
LOL, you could be right BUT, the process they are following with cigarettes is EXACTLY what they did with alcohol prior to making it illegal.
People should be smart enough to either not smoke or quit smoking for themselves and/or families. Who would want to cut their life in half for a shitty 4 minute nicotine buzz. 
These images are absurd. I used to smoke (4 years) and now I've basically quit. I used the gum and the drive to survive and I can say I'm done with them. Now this is from a 21 year old who started when he was 15 but it's all the same. We know it's bad and we know what can happen.
If you don't know that and you smoke on a regular basis then I want to come live in whatever bubble you're hanging out in.
If you don't know that and you smoke on a regular basis then I want to come live in whatever bubble you're hanging out in.
There are similarities with marijuana prohibition, too. The wiki is an interesting read. It demonstrates how these things take time to build momentum toward prohibition.
The state can't just say, "No more cigarettes!" without fearing major blowback from the populace (not revolution, but losing favor, possible civic unrest, etc.). They need to whittle around the edges.
This is how the state operates, which has proven to be very effective. Consider the evolution of state education, entitlements, federal income tax, and regulations in every possible sector (medicine, firearms, insurance, etc.).
The populace is treated like a frog placed into a pot of water. The water is heated slowly to the boiling point so the frog never realizes he's getting cooked. Same thing here.
Sadly, it works.
Ahh yes, similar to how they've subtly ignoring certain aspects of the constitution. But just the ones that no one really cares about, right?
The debate over the Constitution is an interesting case. On the one hand, some folks believe it was "written to be broad and flexible to accommodate social or technological change over time." On the other hand, a lot of folks think the authors "never intended for their original words to change meaning."
This debate will never be settled. Hence, the contents of the Constitution will always by questioned, and susceptible to dismissal when the "need" arises.
By the way, this is a good read:
http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm
I know you got some skepticism from other posters here, but I can tell you that this is absolutely true for our province of British Columbia up here in the frozen white north.
I did a study on this in September 2008 and showed that cigarette smokers brought in $726 million in cigarette taxes in 2007. Total health care costs for all smoking-related illnesses were estimated at $430 million for the same year. The province actually profited almost $300 million from smokers regardless of their health treatment costs.
Compare this to obesity, which had health treatment costs of about $380 million in 2006, and no direct tax to support them. In our province, food isn't taxed at all (which I believe is the right way to go. Healthy eaters shouldn't pay extra because of fatties).
I haven't done any research in the states, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that obesity and its related illnesses in many areas have far outpaced smoking when it comes to total health care costs.
(references)
http://www.smoke-free.ca/factsheets/pdf/totaltax.pdf
http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/173/11/1307
http://qp.gov.bc.ca/CMT/38thparl/se...v2006/Rpt-Health-38-2-29Nov2006-AppendixB.htm
Nobody on either side of my family as far back as I know has ever had cancer of any kind except my grandfather's brother who was a smoker. Nobody else in my family smokes, and I'm not just talking about my parents, I mean grandparents on either side, my sister, 10 uncles and aunties, too many cousins to count and everything in between. None of them have had cancer and none of them smoked. The statistics say 1 in 2 people get cancer, is my family extremely lucky or is smoking the fuckin' cause of everything?
