Guest Blogging is Dead

If you pull your head out of this collective wf conscious, you might realize that he's more right than you will ever be.

That you use seo as a bucket term for the fact that you are trying to squeeze a below average paycheck out of Google is not his fault.
 


LOL you got into a debate about link building with Michael Martinez from seo-theory.

That's on my bucket list of Shit Not to Do. He's not trolling, he just doesn't know shit from shineola when it comes to link building.

His link building for 2013 strategy guide gives pretty much no strategies and ends with the subhead of "Is link building dead?" lol...

LOL what an idiot.
His disqus default pic looks like he was on the cast of Napoleon Dynamite.

BTW, he contradicts himself by posting this on his shitty site:
"I just want to highlight that a bunch of low-quality or spam sites have latched on to “guest blogging” as their link-building strategy, and we see a lot more spammy attempts to do guest blogging. Because of that, I’d recommend skepticism (or at least caution) when someone reaches out and offers you a guest blog article."
Which is exactly what I fucking said.
 
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I'll post my reply to that wanna-be guru Michael Martinez here:
Google has and always will be going after "SPAM". Telling people, including your readers that "guest blogging is dead" and "you've predicted this for years" is just guru gibberish and you're trying to hype the topic up for your own benefit. (Marketing 101, not sure if you're aware of that even)
SPAM IS DEAD. NOT GUEST BLOGGING. SPAM HAS BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS. MOVE ALONG CHILDREN.
 
Old Grandpappy Hobbs never bothered with guest posting and all this nonsense. This is the man that invented many things that made him one of the wealthiest people on the planet. The ball-bearing, the monkey wrench, the magnetic screwdriver tip... all masterpieces of Hershel Willoughby Hobbs, Sr. I remember being a young whippersnapper, still wet behind the ears, sitting on Papaw's lap in the rocking chair by the fire, and he'd say... "Son, I've seen the future. People are going to start fiddlin' with thangs such as website directories, web rings, and eventually search engines. Don't be messin' wit no SEO, son. It's the devil's work," he'd say. I said, "but Big Poppa, what will I do then? Surely you aren't suggesting I be an actual marketer?"

He said, "Hell no, boy. I want you to stick to your roots. I want you to use the methods that made your old, fat grandaddy so wealthy... I want you to use SCO."

I said "Nigga, what the fuck is SCO?"

"Grandson, take my hand."

We walked out the front door and around the side of the house and into the outhouse. He picked up a giant book and showed me a gigantic advertisement he had paid for, right on the inside cover on the very first page.

He said... "Son, take heed and remember ye this. When men speak of things such as SEO and SE1... you recall this moment and stay the path. SCO is your livelihood..."

I thought he was being cryptic, and laying forth a grand mystery for me to unwravel throughout the years, a veritable treasure hunt, upon which the hinges would creak and the gold would pour forth like the bitcoin.

29 years later, I have discovered this secret. One easy trick to make $30,000 a month right from your living room...

SCO....

Sears Catalog Optimization.
 
Tried voicing my opinion on Search Engine Land and this fuck keeps commenting on every reply.
I give up.... This guy is either a troll or a faggot.
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The way the fella composes himself - I know Michael Martinez couldn't rank his way into turtle snuggies.

Either way, fuck this lame discussion - ranking w spam that people couldn't imagine is spam wins all if you gonna bother SEOing.
 
Whenever we as SEO's automate something and scale it to spam level proportions... we fuck it up for everyone - it really is a shame!

Take this post from CC's Traffic Leaks thread. CC drops some epic shit about how to leak traffic to your sites... good, clean, stealth techniques and the first thing on this guys mind is "how can i automate this??" Really... if thats the first thing you thought of after reading Traffic Leaks then you're missing the point... no??

Guest posting went the same way after Google's Penguin update. A tonne of guest posting services hit the market with domain lists of over 100 sites in every niche imaginable... they're still being pimped on the likes of DP and TF. At the same time, a tonne on "niche blog networks" also hit the marketplace, which from what i could see, were just a bunch of random dropped domains that had been re-purposed as niche domains.

I hate the Google Webscam team with a passion... but from where i'm sitting, when Fat Cutts talks about devaluing guest blogging as a form link acquisition... it's because we've fucked it up for everyone by automating it!
 
My conclusions?

Google wants everyone to depend on them.

So they have modified the concept of guest blogging, which has a specific meaning, and are now trying to categorize that plus every form of webmaster interaction as spam.

Yes, his example of a 'guest post' is one of spam, but personally, I don't consider that 'guest blogging' at all. That is a bartered link (as in bartering content for links) I remember reading a guest post on BlueHatSEO... now that is a guest post.

Overall, this is nothing new. G wants you to be afraid of all forms of traffic except adwords.

I wouldn't be surprised if Matt Cuts starts threatening webmasters (or warning them) that if they do media buys directly with high traffic sites instead of buying clicks, that is now SEO spam and you will be penalized for it unless you do so in XYZ manner designed to give them more information as to the structure of the web, as if that was their right... oh wait...

You quoting him is the only reason what he says matters. He is a disinformation agent, and people just lap it up. The only reason people find what he says to be reasonable is an appeal to authority, the logic behind what he says is really weak.

Even though there is some variance from my personal thoughts, wish there was a way to like this twice...

Whenever we as SEO's automate something and scale it to spam level proportions... we fuck it up for everyone - it really is a shame!

Take this post from CC's Traffic Leaks thread. CC drops some epic shit about how to leak traffic to your sites... good, clean, stealth techniques and the first thing on this guys mind is "how can i automate this??" Really... if thats the first thing you thought of after reading Traffic Leaks then you're missing the point... no??

Guest posting went the same way after Google's Penguin update. A tonne of guest posting services hit the market with domain lists of over 100 sites in every niche imaginable... they're still being pimped on the likes of DP and TF. At the same time, a tonne on "niche blog networks" also hit the marketplace, which from what i could see, were just a bunch of random dropped domains that had been re-purposed as niche domains.

I hate the Google Webscam team with a passion... but from where i'm sitting, when Fat Cutts talks about devaluing guest blogging as a form link acquisition... it's because we've fucked it up for everyone by automating it!

This has merit.


Ultimately from my vantage point there needs to be a shift from within the community to something else and position it as such.. Thought this while reading the thread and came across the SCO (Sears Catalog Optimization) comment. Which is exactly the point.

Language is key.

If the language moves away from Search Engine anything but toward other more important points like customers and revenue and "somehow" the entire industry followed this trend in thought and practice, the playing would level then shift.

However, as long as language says "search engine" this or that, there will remain an issue, as any company who operates in that arena has a vested interest to protect. Ranting at this point in the game about him besides for fun and sport is almost laughable. Barring a few exceptions of course.

With all the talent and intelligence here, my concern is why haven't the smarter chaps in attendance not devised and deployed methods to thwart his commentary long ago?

In that, not meaning merely private endeavors but endless tidbits of usable methods and ideologies dispensed to the masses in routine and plain fashion so as to have them thoroughly disregard and dismiss such commentary and likewise continuing that behavior towards any action real, proposed or threatened.

That in addition to changing the language and meaning will have significant impact.

The other and almost more important thing here is your mind and where you place that company in it. It is because they have power there we even have this thread. 7Search could have become a top company if "we" wanted it to.

And not just for arbitrage.

All the mind power here nobody has really thought about Wordpress...

Really thought...

How that company essentially controls the web and took it for free.

What do you really "need" from that other company besides analytics and advertising? Traffic is endless and increasing. New highways get built every few years, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Vine, Pinterest etc...

The only things that stop alternatives to resources and income streams they provide (Cutts' company) are lack of discipline, laziness, fear and greed. That's from within the companies that create these alternatives or from the people using them.

Ad networks, analytics programs and income alternatives find others and raise them up.

Other than that my thought is that we need to think ecosystems (if you are not already) and how to position our various properties within them. Search is just part of it and is really diminishing in the sense of which we have become accustomed.

Platforms and position on them and within them matters most hence the pivots by all the billion dollar companies. Laptops, tablets, watches, smart devices, glasses, tech environment etc...From WildGunner, you heard it here first, "Homescreen Advantage" is the future.

This is where you want to be. Number one in a list is great. However, Homescreen Advantage means you occupy mentally space and your position is of enough value that you come more than first, you become part of your customers thinking, their process. Sidenote:If you do not solicit Homescreen Advantage then you want to integrate or become integral within something that is.

Anyway enough of that

Edison is doing some sort of scheduled outage and this laptop need to rest. Just used it to charge my phone.
 
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Whenever we as SEO's automate something and scale it to spam level proportions... we fuck it up for everyone - it really is a shame!

Take this post from CC's Traffic Leaks thread. CC drops some epic shit about how to leak traffic to your sites... good, clean, stealth techniques and the first thing on this guys mind is "how can i automate this??" Really... if thats the first thing you thought of after reading Traffic Leaks then you're missing the point... no??

Guest posting went the same way after Google's Penguin update. A tonne of guest posting services hit the market with domain lists of over 100 sites in every niche imaginable... they're still being pimped on the likes of DP and TF. At the same time, a tonne on "niche blog networks" also hit the marketplace, which from what i could see, were just a bunch of random dropped domains that had been re-purposed as niche domains.

I hate the Google Webscam team with a passion... but from where i'm sitting, when Fat Cutts talks about devaluing guest blogging as a form link acquisition... it's because we've fucked it up for everyone by automating it!



Every link building technique works, the devil is in the details.
 
Whenever we as SEO's automate something and scale it to spam level proportions... we fuck it up for everyone - it really is a shame!

Idiots fuck things up. Computers don't. Automation is not the problem - providing a set of incorrect instructions to machines that can execute them very effectively is what fucks things up.

Providing a correct instruction set to those machine produces very different results.

But there are always buffoons in every walk of life and every circle you mix with somehow I guess. :)
 
Every link building technique works, the devil is in the details.

True. IMO, links are still the single most important ranking factor and as long as that remains the case, people a lot smarter than me will find a way to manipulate SERPs... and for that i am truly grateful.


Idiots fuck things up. Computers don't. Automation is not the problem - providing a set of incorrect instructions to machines that can execute them very effectively is what fucks things up.

Agreed... but that's a whole different argument. The keywords in that sentence were:

Whenever we as SEO's automate something and scale it to spam level proportions... we fuck it up for everyone
I suppose the real issue is the way in which we turn all link building techniques into spam. Automation is simply a vehicle that allows us to scale... but spam is the inevitable outcome of the automated scaling process:
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I suppose the real issue is the way in which we turn all link building techniques into spam.

You're looking at this the wrong way.

It's the search engines like the big G that make the rules for this silly game. If it wasn't for them banning/sandboxing sites and playing all their little games, you wouldn't see people automating and scaling link spam as much.

But here you see, you have this system created that could kill all your organic traffic to your sites the very next update even if you play by the rules. When you don't have any kind of long-term stability in a system like that, a system that is worth a lot of money, of course you're going to have a lot of people looking to burn it.
 
You're looking at this the wrong way.

It's the search engines like the big G that make the rules for this silly game. If it wasn't for them banning/sandboxing sites and playing all their little games, you wouldn't see people automating and scaling link spam as much.

But here you see, you have this system created that could kill all your organic traffic to your sites the very next update even if you play by the rules. When you don't have any kind of long-term stability in a system like that, a system that is worth a lot of money, of course you're going to have a lot of people looking to burn it.

The deluded optimist in me wants to believe that long term stable rankings are still achievable. But the smarter pragmatic me knows that you're absolutely right with what you've said above... there's a devil whispering in my ear and his name is Matt Cutts!!