How educated are you?

consider what else it might tell your employer. idk, ive hired maybe 15 americans in my life and none of them were college grads as far as i can recall. i remember college grads being the most pathetic candidates, the last one with a full portfolio of wix websites.
  • Youre not a natural born genius, otherwise you wouldn't need the crutch
  • You might be gullible, after all, you fell for everybodys bullshit about college
  • You're just a baby. Compared to all the dropouts, your experience in an office is lacking
  • From what I've seen, you probably think all those frat parties and the piece of paper in your hand makes you important or valuable beyond the reality. You're a 90 day temp that better fuck or walk or its hit the bricks pal [gggr]
  • From what I've seen in the past, you probably don't have a sense of urgency - in tech a lot of people don't, its fucking annoying
  • Did you know Google exists? Do you know how to learn new things on your own without hand-holding?
  • Must not be a go-getter. Go getter go and get what they want and shitcan distractions, bullshit and other non-necessities
  • Might be a bigger pain in the ass than I want, after all, this list is pretty fucking bad and unless im hiring a physist or rocket scientist.....hell id probably still rather hire somebody that just really loves physics and rocket science
  • If your degree is relevant to this job - Why did you need any guidance? Isn't this what you wanted to do? Maybe its not, and I want long term people that love what they do because only they can produce what I need
  • Where is the initiative? Logic? Is this person capable of analyzing data, making a decision and then implementing?
  • Does this person now require a tutor to learn anything new or will they just learn it? Is there a weening time between the decade+ of dictated instruction before this pup can teach itself new tricks?

just sayin

I agree with a couple things on this list, however, not every job requires intelligence, creativity or passion whatsoever... so as a college graduate you can be a total retard BUT at least you can, to a degree, do what you're told.

I'm not sure what level of experience you have with 'people' but my experience leads me to believe that many, many people are stupid to the degree that they can't follow or even understand the simplest of orders.

Of course you can tell if someone's stupid or not in an interview. But if the job is a 9-5 desk job which literally requires nothing but edit Excel charts (which I'm not sure why I am hiring someone for instead of writing a script :D), out of two total retards I'd rather go with the college graduate.

College is really not that bad. You're making it sound like if you went to college, you're stupid and nobody should hire you. This attitude is extremely typical among people who have found some sort of success without having gone to college.
 


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Yeah!!! $50,000/year of tuition!!!!
 

That's some expensive pussy.

I dropped school. I come from a poor family, so motivation to learn and adapt came naturally. It's taking me a bit more time to become financially stable but I don't mind it.

I love to read and learn, essentially what every college student is already doing. So why pile on unnecessary debt? Learn, build the skills and sell services or create products that I can sell later. Seems like an easy concept. I'll be the first to admit that I've wasted a few years working low-wage jobs with little success but I'm not fazed. Success is coming my way and financial security in reality is a joke.

Right now living out of a motel and building web app that I know is going to bring me bank, industry leaders are consolidating and my product is going to be worth $$$$. Working with shitty wifi spots and library.
 
That's some expensive pussy.

I dropped school. I come from a poor family, so motivation to learn and adapt came naturally. It's taking me a bit more time to become financially stable but I don't mind it.

I love to read and learn, essentially what every college student is already doing. So why pile on unnecessary debt? Learn, build the skills and sell services or create products that I can sell later. Seems like an easy concept. I'll be the first to admit that I've wasted a few years working low-wage jobs with little success but I'm not fazed. Success is coming my way and financial security in reality is a joke.

Right now living out of a motel and building web app that I know is going to bring me bank, industry leaders are consolidating and my product is going to be worth $$$$. Working with shitty wifi spots and library.

I've been out of college for 2 months right now and this is the only real, day to day benefit I get from my degree: When I talk to someone and our conversation comes to the point where they have to ask "and how do you know that?" I can always say "I learned it in college" and I give them a pan face. They'll either reply "oh I didn't go to college" or make some comment about how they didn't remember much from college.

Truth: I learned it all on WF.
 
I've been out of college for 2 months right now and this is the only real, day to day benefit I get from my degree: When I talk to someone and our conversation comes to the point where they have to ask "and how do you know that?" I can always say "I learned it in college" and I give them a pan face. They'll either reply "oh I didn't go to college" or make some comment about how they didn't remember much from college.

You sound like a right cunt bro.
 
oddly enough, I found out today I can go to one of the EDU's I do PPC for at 75% off their normal rates.

This is making credit hours right at $105, cheaper than community colleges in my area.

Looks like I might be finishing up a degree after all with such a bargain.
 
Advanced diploma in Integrated Marketing Communications. The job placement in semesters two and three were pretty great experience and something that many other similar Uni programs don't have.

College is better than University in that respect up here in Canada.
 
I've been out of college for 2 months right now and this is the only real, day to day benefit I get from my degree: When I talk to someone and our conversation comes to the point where they have to ask "and how do you know that?" I can always say "I learned it in college" and I give them a pan face. They'll either reply "oh I didn't go to college" or make some comment about how they didn't remember much from college.

Truth: I learned it all on WF.

Can't imagine many people caring or asking how you know anything.
 
oddly enough, I found out today I can go to one of the EDU's I do PPC for at 75% off their normal rates.

This is making credit hours right at $105, cheaper than community colleges in my area.

Looks like I might be finishing up a degree after all with such a bargain.

Was price the big hang up for you for going to college? If college was more affordable would you be more for it? Not hating, just interested

Personally I think most of it is just bullshit for so many career choices. I can understand hobby and getting degrees/certifications to prove your dedication to education - that's it. A lot of things they teach is wrong/biased garbage anyways.

Edit:

I know a lot of people are joking when they say they went for the parties/good time or whatever. Anyone young and making money can just move next to a college town.. Not every career choice can do this though
 
Graduated with a Masters Degree in Economics just as the banks collapsed in 2008. Played online poker full time for a couple of years, setup a coffee roasters then settled on IM.
 
Stereotypes are dangerous. For most people, a degree makes sense. WF is a breeding ground of personality types that are ambitious, self starting and able to teach themselves. Lots of people want someone to lead them, and they need structured learning to become proficient.

I know plenty of people who just have no desire to learn by their own free will. They only learn when they're set on courses at work, or when a boss tells them how to do something, etc.

I was pretty academic in school, was accepted into one of the top comp. sci. courses in the UK and dropped out after 7 weeks -- the workload was so intense that I didn't have time to run the company I started a couple years prior -- the company was going downhill fast. It was a miserable 7 weeks.

Over the next year I got a part-time job as a developer at a start-up whilst continuing to run my own biz on the side, to gain quick experience in a company that was scaling. I started another company at the end of that Summer, and started at another university at the same time, doing a split between Computer Science & Business (a much better balance, that I enjoyed -- and they're two skillsets that are notoriously rare combined in one person).

I got a first in my first year, whilst running the new company I founded in the summer prior, selling the prior company I'd been running & going out drinking 2-3 nights a week. Not entirely sure how I did it. After that year the company was at a stage where we needed to raise capital to reach the next step, and the investor required I withdrew from school to focus 100% on the biz (as you'd expect).

I dropped out, ran that company for another year and it ultimately failed. I learnt much more in that year than I learnt in my year at university. I decided not to go back and complete the remaining 2 years, but got involved in affiliate marketing, then ultimately started a marketing agency where I saw a large opportunity.

I wouldn't go back and change anything. The experience of university in that first year is good, because I don't now feel that I missed out on something. I'm not going to get to 40 and say "I wish I had the university experience". It all helped to define where I wanted to go -- having a job for the summer at a start-up confirmed to me that I wanted to be involved in start-ups, not big corporates. The 7 weeks of a comp sci degree convinced me that I didn't want to be a software developer for the rest of my life. Balancing so much work during my second stint at university taught me a lot about managing my time, getting shit done, and what I was really capable of when I put my mind to something.

I won't ever have a conventional job, so it doesn't matter that much, but I do get people looking down on me for not having a degree. I've also failed to win deals due to not having a traditional education (not that they're the type of clients we want to work with in the first place). Lots of people don't have their shit together in their late teens/early twenties, and for them getting the piece of paper makes sense -- even if only because for lots of jobs it's a tick in a box you need, and because small minded people will look down on you for not having one.
 
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I've also failed to win deals due to not having a traditional education (not that they're the type of clients we want to work with in the first place).

I would lose my cool, haven't had anything happen like that. The few clients that asked anything about that usually remarked about their employees that came in without a degree were the best/hardest working - or something to that effect - not that college people are bad workers, just they were supportive of the idea.
 
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