I Can't Believe This Was On Fox
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What if they're telling people what they want to hear?
Obama was portrayed as a 'savior' as well from G.W. Bush.
Lots of great points, but the only way things will ever change is revolution... not election.
Obama was portrayed as a 'savior' as well from G.W. Bush.
Lots of great points, but the only way things will ever change is revolution... not election.
WHAT IF - all of these questions were already answered by someone decades ago?
I introduce to you Carroll Quigley :
Carroll Quigley (November 9, 1910 – January 3, 1977) was an American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilizations. He is noted for his teaching work as a professor at Georgetown University, for his academic publications, and for his research on secret societies.
One distinctive feature of Quigley’s historical writings was his assertion that secret societies have played a significant role in recent world history. His writing on this topic has made Quigley famous among many who investigate conspiracy theories.[2]:96, 98 Quigley’s views are particularly notable because the majority of reputable academic historians profess skepticism about conspiracy theories.[4]
[edit] Quigley’s claims about the Milner Group
In his book The Anglo-American Establishment: From Rhodes to Cliveden, written in 1949 but published posthumously in 1981, Quigley purports to trace the history of a secret society founded in 1891 by Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner. The society consisted of an inner circle (“The Society of the Elect”) and an outer circle (“The Association of Helpers”).[5]:ix, 3 The society as a whole does not have a fixed name:
In 1966, Quigley published a one-volume history of the twentieth century entitled Tragedy and Hope. At several points in this book, the history of the Milner group is discussed. Moreover, Quigley states that he has recently been in direct contact with this organization, whose nature he contrasts to right-wing claims of a communist conspiracy:
I introduce to you Carroll Quigley :
Carroll Quigley (November 9, 1910 – January 3, 1977) was an American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilizations. He is noted for his teaching work as a professor at Georgetown University, for his academic publications, and for his research on secret societies.
One distinctive feature of Quigley’s historical writings was his assertion that secret societies have played a significant role in recent world history. His writing on this topic has made Quigley famous among many who investigate conspiracy theories.[2]:96, 98 Quigley’s views are particularly notable because the majority of reputable academic historians profess skepticism about conspiracy theories.[4]
[edit] Quigley’s claims about the Milner Group
In his book The Anglo-American Establishment: From Rhodes to Cliveden, written in 1949 but published posthumously in 1981, Quigley purports to trace the history of a secret society founded in 1891 by Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner. The society consisted of an inner circle (“The Society of the Elect”) and an outer circle (“The Association of Helpers”).[5]:ix, 3 The society as a whole does not have a fixed name:
This society has been known at various times as Milner's Kindergarten, as the Round Table Group, as the Rhodes crowd, as The Times crowd, as the All Souls group, and as the Cliveden set. ... I have chosen to call it the Milner group. Those persons who have used the other terms, or heard them used, have not generally been aware that all these various terms referred to the same Group. It is not easy for an outsider to write the history of a secret group of this kind, but, since no insider is going to do it, an outsider must attempt it. It should be done, for this Group is, as I shall show, one of the most important historical facts of the twentieth century.[5]:ix
Quigley assigns this group primary or exclusive credit for several historical events: the Jameson Raid, the Second Boer War, the founding of the Union of South Africa, the replacement of the British Empire with the Commonwealth of Nations, and a number of Britain’s foreign policy decisions in the twentieth century.[5]:5
In 1966, Quigley published a one-volume history of the twentieth century entitled Tragedy and Hope. At several points in this book, the history of the Milner group is discussed. Moreover, Quigley states that he has recently been in direct contact with this organization, whose nature he contrasts to right-wing claims of a communist conspiracy:
This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements.... This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.[6]:949-950
Continued:
Quigley also stated:
“ It was this group of people, whose wealth and influence so exceeded their experience and understanding, who provided much of the framework of influence which the Communist sympathizers and fellow travelers took over in the United States in the 1930s. It must be recognized that the power of these energetic Left wingers exercised was never their own power or Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie, and, once the anger and suspicions of the American people were aroused as they were in the 1950s, it was a fairly simple matter to get rid of the Red sympathizers. Before this could be done, however, a congressional committee, following backward to their source the threads which led from the admitted Communists like Whittaker Chambers, through Alger Hiss, and the Carnegie Endowment to Thomas Lamont and the Morgan Bank, fell into the whole complicated network of the interlocking tax-exempt foundations. The Eighty-third Congress set up in 1953 a Special Reece Committee to investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations. It soon became clear that people of immense wealth would be unhappy if the investigation went too far and that the "most respected" newspapers in the country, closely allied with these men of wealth, would not get excited enough about any revelations to make the publicity worthwhile. An interesting report showing the Left-wing associations of interlocking nexus of tax-exempt foundations was issued in 1954 rather quietly. Four years later, the Reece Committee's general counsel, Rene A Wormser, wrote a shocked, but not shocking, book on the subject called "Foundations: Their Power and Influence."[6]:954-955 ”
According to Quigley, the leaders of this group were Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner from 1891 until Rhodes’ death in 1902, Milner alone until his own death in 1925, Lionel Curtis from 1925 to 1955, Robert H. (Baron) Brand from 1955 to 1963, and Adam D. Marris from 1963 until the time Quigley wrote his book. This organization also functioned through certain loosely affiliated “front groups”, including the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Institute of Pacific Relations, and the Council on Foreign Relations. After 1960, while the offspring of the Milner Group, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Royal Institute of International Affairs still remained dominant in political affairs, much of the influence of the original circle around Milner (who edited periodicals like The Round Table) dwindled, as other political power-brokers took over the power structures their predecessors had established.[6]:132, 950-952
In addition, other secret societies are briefly discussed in Tragedy and Hope, including a consortium of the leaders of the central banks of several countries, who formed the Bank for International Settlements:
The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.
GOOD READ: Tragedy and Hope : Carroll Quigley : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
Quigley also stated:
“ It was this group of people, whose wealth and influence so exceeded their experience and understanding, who provided much of the framework of influence which the Communist sympathizers and fellow travelers took over in the United States in the 1930s. It must be recognized that the power of these energetic Left wingers exercised was never their own power or Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie, and, once the anger and suspicions of the American people were aroused as they were in the 1950s, it was a fairly simple matter to get rid of the Red sympathizers. Before this could be done, however, a congressional committee, following backward to their source the threads which led from the admitted Communists like Whittaker Chambers, through Alger Hiss, and the Carnegie Endowment to Thomas Lamont and the Morgan Bank, fell into the whole complicated network of the interlocking tax-exempt foundations. The Eighty-third Congress set up in 1953 a Special Reece Committee to investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations. It soon became clear that people of immense wealth would be unhappy if the investigation went too far and that the "most respected" newspapers in the country, closely allied with these men of wealth, would not get excited enough about any revelations to make the publicity worthwhile. An interesting report showing the Left-wing associations of interlocking nexus of tax-exempt foundations was issued in 1954 rather quietly. Four years later, the Reece Committee's general counsel, Rene A Wormser, wrote a shocked, but not shocking, book on the subject called "Foundations: Their Power and Influence."[6]:954-955 ”
According to Quigley, the leaders of this group were Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner from 1891 until Rhodes’ death in 1902, Milner alone until his own death in 1925, Lionel Curtis from 1925 to 1955, Robert H. (Baron) Brand from 1955 to 1963, and Adam D. Marris from 1963 until the time Quigley wrote his book. This organization also functioned through certain loosely affiliated “front groups”, including the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Institute of Pacific Relations, and the Council on Foreign Relations. After 1960, while the offspring of the Milner Group, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Royal Institute of International Affairs still remained dominant in political affairs, much of the influence of the original circle around Milner (who edited periodicals like The Round Table) dwindled, as other political power-brokers took over the power structures their predecessors had established.[6]:132, 950-952
In addition, other secret societies are briefly discussed in Tragedy and Hope, including a consortium of the leaders of the central banks of several countries, who formed the Bank for International Settlements:
The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.
GOOD READ: Tragedy and Hope : Carroll Quigley : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
Great points and a great video thanks for sharing ,
i have to say is," i dont want to say that this country is full of dumb people, but the people in this country lacks of
List
1. knowledge - know your history, know where you stand
2. manners - people are too fucking dumb they dont even realize what is manners anymore
3. character - character = diamond that can scratch any surface - frank sinatra
4. responsibility
i have to say is," i dont want to say that this country is full of dumb people, but the people in this country lacks of
List
1. knowledge - know your history, know where you stand
2. manners - people are too fucking dumb they dont even realize what is manners anymore
3. character - character = diamond that can scratch any surface - frank sinatra
4. responsibility
Got that on the bookshelf. Heavy fucker too.
Love the Judge, he spits truth regularly. But they've got him buried on the FOX Business channel which gets about 1/100th the viewers as the regular channel.
freedom watch has been on fox for a long while, it's def an out of place program on that network
why they have it and what their agenda is with it I have no idea
why they have it and what their agenda is with it I have no idea
Curious, which major network would this not be out of place on?
The least surprising major network that would air a piece like this is Fox.
What if Ron Paul is just merely a distraction by the Republicans in order to lure enough conservative voters that dislike the other candidates all in an effort to split the vote and elect an uber moderate like romney.
The country does need a change. Paul is unfortunately the best person in the country that has risen to the top of the bowl, in spite of his many shortcomings.
The country does need a change. Paul is unfortunately the best person in the country that has risen to the top of the bowl, in spite of his many shortcomings.
The Judge has been a "Fox News Contributor" for a while. Of course, this was Fox Business as someone mentioned which is not Fox News, it gets way less viewers. That said, they started his show out as a internet stream only, so it's good they have him on at all.
Also good: Stossel Show with John Stossel - Fox Business
Side note: Focus less on groups (Fox), and more on the ideas of the individual (Stossel, the Judge, etc.). There are gems everywhere.
My only possible explanation why Faux lets this kind of thing run on their business channel is the same as why they have Ron Paul on their main channel at all: To be able to point to evidence that they are fair and balanced.
This whole 'fair and balanced' motto they have is just so twisted and misused that I literally don't know anyone who would fail to snicker when they hear it said... Yet they keep on trying, doing things like this or have Dr. Paul on just so they can say they're fair and balanced. (Then meanwhile spend all of the rest of their airtime working against Paul and these what ifs.)
Sadly the american public is so far past too stupid that I'd sooner suspect their pets of seeing through this charade than the american viewers themselves.
This whole 'fair and balanced' motto they have is just so twisted and misused that I literally don't know anyone who would fail to snicker when they hear it said... Yet they keep on trying, doing things like this or have Dr. Paul on just so they can say they're fair and balanced. (Then meanwhile spend all of the rest of their airtime working against Paul and these what ifs.)
Sadly the american public is so far past too stupid that I'd sooner suspect their pets of seeing through this charade than the american viewers themselves.
Even Infowars was in shock that this was aired.
» Judge Napolitano: What If the Establishment is Lying to Us About Ron Paul? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
» Judge Napolitano: What If the Establishment is Lying to Us About Ron Paul? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
Simple.
They ignored him up until the point they realized he had a chance, and they realized they're past actions of ignoring him were exposed to enough people that they (fox) in turn looked bad.
They ignored him up until the point they realized he had a chance, and they realized they're past actions of ignoring him were exposed to enough people that they (fox) in turn looked bad.