iPhone 4.0 Features being announced right now

kblessinggr said:
Basically for any app already using built in ads, will have to switch to using Apple's iAd API, for example all those Zynga games will have to switch to the iAds API in order to stay in the apps for any kind of ad-supported software.
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it'll be interesting to see how this affects google's admob.
 


Marketcake said:
i heard the whole problem with flash was not really because of tons of agreements, but because flash actually requires a mouse cursor as a basis for its motion or animation detection or something, so on the iphone it just wasnt really doable. not sure how legit that source is but thats what they seemed pretty adamant on telling me
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Flash runs on Android. Flash runs on Maemo. Flash runs on jailbroken iPhones. I'd say it's cause flash is resource heavy and slow, and apple doesn't like all the potential it could have...instead they make people buy apps.
 
roclafamilia said:
Flash runs on Android. Flash runs on Maemo. Flash runs on jailbroken iPhones. I'd say it's cause flash is resource heavy and slow, and apple doesn't like all the potential it could have...instead they make people buy apps.
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lol okay im going to go tell my friend hes a douchefag
 
roclafamilia said:
Flash runs on Android. Flash runs on Maemo. Flash runs on jailbroken iPhones. I'd say it's cause flash is resource heavy and slow, and apple doesn't like all the potential it could have...instead they make people buy apps.
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Yep, apple wants to keep people trapped in their little circles. Always have. Says it makes things easier.
 
surprised there's not more noise about this iAd business:

Pancreatic cancer survivor Jobs, looking thin but energetic, introduced the iAd mobile platform, which he said had the opportunity to make 1 billion ad impressions a day on tens of millions of Apple mobile device users.

IAds will allow applications developers to use advertisements in their apps, pocketing 60 per cent of the revenue. Apple will sell and host the ads.

Jobs harshly criticised the current manner and look of mobile advertising, particularly search ads. He promised that iAds will foster more engaging advertising that will not pull users away from the content within apps.

New Arena

Tim Bajarin, president of consulting company Creative Strategies, said it was a dramatic shift in thinking about the delivery of mobile ads, and an obvious move by Apple to set itself apart from Google, which made its name on search ads.

"It's very clear that Jobs believes that ads in the context of apps makes more sense than generic mobile search," he said.

Apple's entry into the mobile ad arena had been widely expected. This year, it paid $US270 million for Quattro Wireless, an advertising network that spans both mobile websites and smartphone applications.

Google, which already sells advertising on smartphones, agreed to buy mobile ad firm AdMob late in 2009. U.S. regulators are examining the deal's antitrust implications.

Jobs said Apple was also in the hunt to buy AdMob before Google "snatched them from us because they didn't want us to have them." The comments were just the latest hint at the rift that has emerged between Apple and Google, which were once allies but now compete in a number of arenas.

Research group Gartner expects the mobile advertising market to expand by 78 per cent to $US1.6 billion in 2010.
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iPhones and iPads to be plastered with iAds

Ads that won't pull the user away from content of the apps??? Thats exactly what I'd want my ads to do. Click through, mofos, fuck yo app.
 
roclafamilia said:
Flash runs on Android. Flash runs on Maemo. Flash runs on jailbroken iPhones. I'd say it's cause flash is resource heavy and slow, and apple doesn't like all the potential it could have...instead they make people buy apps.
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Um, which android phone has flash on it currently? What iPhone/iPod has flash on it (and where is this 'flash' plugin in Cydia?)

According adobe themselves, only these phones have flash on them:
Adobe - Mobile & Devices: Supported Devices: Handset Manufacturers

All of them appear to be flip phones, and all of them in Japan. And all only using Flash Lite.
 
kblessinggr said:
Um, which android phone has flash on it currently? What iPhone/iPod has flash on it (and where is this 'flash' plugin in Cydia?)

According adobe themselves, only these phones have flash on them:
Adobe - Mobile & Devices: Supported Devices: Handset Manufacturers

All of them appear to be flip phones, and all of them in Japan. And all only using Flash Lite.
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http://imobilecinema.com/ (not loading right now)

Code: 
cydia repo: http://d.imobilecinema.com/

not exactly flash completely, but it plays flash video.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZO3AmquvSk]YouTube - iMobileCinema: Play Flash Video in iPhone Safari[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee3nT4bPw4]YouTube - Flash Player 10.1 for Mobile devices, Smartphones and Netbooks[/ame]
 
roclafamilia said:
http://imobilecinema.com/ (not loading right now)

Code: 
cydia repo: http://d.imobilecinema.com/

not exactly flash completely, but it plays flash video.

YouTube - iMobileCinema: Play Flash Video in iPhone Safari

YouTube - Flash Player 10.1 for Mobile devices, Smartphones and Netbooks
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Basically not even flash, an FLV player. Ergo 2% of what flash is capable of, cuz even the flash video sites like hulu will not work with that , when no interactivity is supported.
 
kblessinggr said:
Basically not even flash, an FLV player. Ergo 2% of what flash is capable of, cuz even the flash video sites like hulu will not work with that , when no interactivity is supported.
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the second video shows a lot more than flip phones running just flash light though...and i don't even care for flash on iphone, most sites make iphone friendly sites...so it's just a waste...
 
I don't see a market for phone advertising unless the phone subscription was significantly subsidized by the ads. Like the rumors about the Google phone being free to use but you agree to look at ads.

Why the fuck would I pay to use a phone that gives me ads? Considering the small size of the screen and the "appliance" nature of using a phone for most people (i.e., you use it for its purpose and then put it away) I really don't get it.

Maybe pop up a small AdSense-like ad while you're texting to make texting free.. but I don't use my phone for surfing, so I guess I'm not in the target demographic. I just don't see the point in surfing on a 3" screen.
 
Supergeek said:
I don't see a market for phone advertising unless the phone subscription was significantly subsidized by the ads. Like the rumors about the Google phone being free to use but you agree to look at ads.

Why the fuck would I pay to use a phone that gives me ads? Considering the small size of the screen and the "appliance" nature of using a phone for most people (i.e., you use it for its purpose and then put it away) I really don't get it.

Maybe pop up a small AdSense-like ad while you're texting to make texting free.. but I don't use my phone for surfing, so I guess I'm not in the target demographic. I just don't see the point in surfing on a 3" screen.
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but how do you check your facebook every 5 minutes ??!!
 
Supergeek said:
I don't see a market for phone advertising unless the phone subscription was significantly subsidized by the ads. Like the rumors about the Google phone being free to use but you agree to look at ads.

Why the fuck would I pay to use a phone that gives me ads? Considering the small size of the screen and the "appliance" nature of using a phone for most people (i.e., you use it for its purpose and then put it away) I really don't get it.

Maybe pop up a small AdSense-like ad while you're texting to make texting free.. but I don't use my phone for surfing, so I guess I'm not in the target demographic. I just don't see the point in surfing on a 3" screen.
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The same reason you pay for internet and your computer, but you don't mind ads on websites...the ads are only in apps that developers put them in, more than likely it will only be in free apps.
 
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