Journalist Assassinated?

so why are you logged in? Lacking self control? That's my excuse =-)

Nope. Self-control is a battle I've fought with myself and won.

Two reasons I'm logged in. First, I'm taking a break, saw Scott's post, and wanted to connect with him. (I like the guy.). Second, I often forget to log out after posting.
 


Nope. Self-control is a battle I've fought with myself and won.

Two reasons I'm logged in. First, I'm taking a break, saw Scott's post, and wanted to connect with him. (I like the guy.). Second, I often forget to log out after posting.

I hear you. I try to schedule at least 1 to 2 days away from WF per week; i should probably bump that up to 4 to 6 days
 
Is it wrong to question the death of yet another prominent anti establishment person? If you want names I would be happy to put that list together from just the last 6 months; the first one I get, but this is like the 6th one in the last 6 months. I am not saying he was killed. Simply asking the question as to the possibility.

It *might* be suspicious if he was found dead in his apartment with no obvious signs of suicide or overdose or something. But this was a car accident. The dude was a known drug and alcohol abuser. It was in Los Angeles, the land of car accidents.

I really don't see how anything in this situation can be seen as suspicious. People die. A LOT of people die in car accidents. Car accidents don't discriminate when it comes to who they kill.

Shit happens.
 
It *might* be suspicious if he was found dead in his apartment with no obvious signs of suicide or overdose or something. But this was a car accident. The dude was a known drug and alcohol abuser. It was in Los Angeles, the land of car accidents.

I really don't see how anything in this situation can be seen as suspicious. People die. A LOT of people die in car accidents. Car accidents don't discriminate when it comes to who they kill.

Shit happens.

You very well could be right. I'm curious when did it become public knowledge that he was a known drug & alcohol abuser? Today?

It's that pesky fire that is leading to this suspicion. Modern car's typically don't burn to the ground and throw the engine from a high speed impact. And unless you totally black out there is no way you are not going to even attempt to break when you are headed for a tree. But you are right, this could be a simple car accident. I never said either way. My question is if it was possible that something more sinister was at play.
 
if 911 is a conspiracy why would the govt. make such a glaring mistake by destroying an unrelated building? Or is it to make us question the conspiracy as I'm doing now?

I dont know, I really dont. There was an interview that I caught shortly after that jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt or weaken steel I beams, never heard a word about it since.

How did , what was it bld 7? ;<- how did it collapse? "shockwaves" lol....
 
You very well could be right. I'm curious when did it become public knowledge that he was a known drug & alcohol abuser? Today?

It's that pesky fire that is leading to this suspicion. Modern car's typically don't burn to the ground and throw the engine from a high speed impact. And unless you totally black out there is no way you are not going to even attempt to break when you are headed for a tree. But you are right, this could be a simple car accident. I never said either way. My question is if it was possible that something more sinister was at play.

Neither you nor I are car crash experts so I don't think we're qualified to speculate here. All I know is that something with a bunch of explosive fuel in it hitting something going very fast probably has all the makings for an explosion and fire.

Seems way more likely that he was driving too fast, lost control, and killed himself than someone snuck in and modified his vehicle in such a way that it would react uncharacteristically in a car accident while not being noticeable by the driver.
 
Seems way more likely that he was driving too fast, lost control, and killed himself than someone snuck in and modified his vehicle in such a way that it would react uncharacteristically in a car accident while not being noticeable by the driver.

Keep in mind this guy made a career going after the FBI, CIA and powerful people. He was reportedly in constant fear for his life. He was "under investigation" by the FBI. He'd been in touch with Wikileak's lawyer hours before his death.

If you believe the narrative, he was a very real threat to the world's most powerful group of professional assassins. It doesn't seem that unlikely either.
 
It *might* be suspicious if he was found dead in his apartment with no obvious signs of suicide or overdose or something. But this was a car accident.

Anytime there is something like a car related death or overdose, the most likely reason would be accident of course, but also at the same time the staging of "accidents" was revealed in 1997 as a technique listed in a CIA manual, and has also been carried out by civilians.


BBC News - Man 'strangled wife and made death look like car crash'

Man kills coworker; makes it look like car accident Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion


The CIA, licensed to kill - Los Angeles Times

The agency's manual recommends "the contrived accident" as the best way to dispose of someone.


CIA and Assassinations: The Guatemala 1954 Documents

from Document 2 :

For secret assassination, either simple or chase, the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated.
 
you would think a car crash capable of that kind of explosion would have done more damage to the tree? can't comment on the front end of the car though, can't see it clearly enough.
 
I wonder how hard it would have been to plant an electronic device in the car to remotely override the acceleration. Add GPS and an iPhone app and you have remote control target elimination.
 
If true there is a massive lawsuit against the car manufacturer as well as a massive recall.

If nothing happens(;) you know what that means bros.

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The revelation that Rolling Stone journalist Michael Hastings was working on a story about the CIA before his death and had contacted a Wikileaks lawyer about being under investigation by the FBI hours before his car exploded into flames has bolstered increasingly valid claims that the 33-year-old was assassinated.
Hastings died early Tuesday morning in Hollywood when his car allegedly hit a tree at high speed. The Los Angeles Coroner’s office has not yet been able to officially identify the body as Hastings because it is so badly burned.
Skeptics of the official narrative have highlighted eyewitness accounts which state that Hastings’ Mercedes “exploded”.
Images of the vehicle appear to show more damage to the rear, around the area of the fuel tank, than the front, leading to speculation that a car bomb which ignited the fuel could have been responsible for the incident.

Car tanks don't explode. What most people/eyewitness describe as "the tank exploded" or "it blown up" is when the tires heat up and pop, causing a "exploding" sound and engulfing the car in fire in a sec afterwards.

There are about 300k vehicle fires each year reported in the US.
Less then 10% of that is caused by collisions.
There are about 500 deaths each year related to vehicle fires in the US.
60-75% of those are caused by collisions. Comes out to about 1 vehicle fire death by collision/day in the US.
http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire07/PDF/f07065.pdf

On the other hand we have:
1. Journalist who covered the Iraq war for Newsweek.
2. After that, famous journalist who brought down a high profile General.
3. Got death threats from the military complex.
4. Was about to release a investigative story about the CIA, right after the PRISM disclosure.
5. Complaint hours before his death that he had the FBI on his tail.

jesus fucking christ guys
dchuk, do you really believe that there is no chance in hell that there could be someone inside the cia/fbi/military who just decided to shut that faggot up ?
Did you read Snowden's report on how the CIA used to recruit bankers in Switzerland? Like a bad movie.

Reality Trumps Fiction.
 
Neither you nor I are car crash experts so I don't think we're qualified to speculate here...

Then shut your mouth and go audit a website or something. ;)

I spent 15 years as a car crash dummy and as a result of my extensive in-field experience, I am a car crash expert.

That man was murdered pure and simple. Really wish OP didn't include a link to the Jonestown website though.
 
if 911 is a conspiracy why would the govt. make such a glaring mistake by destroying an unrelated building? Or is it to make us question the conspiracy as I'm doing now?

I'm FAR from an expert on the 9/11 conspiracy/not a conspiracy thing. However, I do know that there was some really sensitive shit going on in Building 7, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now. From what I've read though a lot of people had a lot of reasons to use 9/11 as an opportunity to make Building 7 go poof.
 
I'm FAR from an expert on the 9/11 conspiracy/not a conspiracy thing. However, I do know that there was some really sensitive shit going on in Building 7, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now. From what I've read though a lot of people had a lot of reasons to use 9/11 as an opportunity to make Building 7 go poof.

I'd be interested if someone did dig that up. Fun reading.
 
Neither you nor I are car crash experts so I don't think we're qualified to speculate here. All I know is that something with a bunch of explosive fuel in it hitting something going very fast probably has all the makings for an explosion and fire.

Seems way more likely that he was driving too fast, lost control, and killed himself than someone snuck in and modified his vehicle in such a way that it would react uncharacteristically in a car accident while not being noticeable by the driver.

Would you believe it if I told you I actually had extensive experience with vehicle crashes. I have been on scene of dozen's of vehicle vs tree/pole/other fixed (hardly enough to be an expert) object; and in that time frame never once have I witnessed a car burn to the ground like that one. Of the vehicle fires that I have seen they mostly were from either parked vehicles, or vehicles that began to smoke and then catch fire. Typically caused by some kind of electrical problem. I know people who have hit trees at 80+ mph drunk off their ass who lived to tell about it.

I have absolutely no idea what caused that fire. But when you look at it, it just doesn't make sense. But like I said maybe you are right. Maybe this was that one in a 1,000,000 freak accident.

BTW you skipped over my question about how long it's been "well known" that he was into drugs and alcohol? It's comment's like that which causes this kind of speculation. With that kind of fire how would they know that fast if he was on something? Why even bring it up? It looks like the coroner has identified the body and confirmed it was Hastings.


The exact cause of death has been deferred pending results of toxicology tests, Corral said.

I haven't found when this accident took place. Everyone is reporting "early tuesday morning". So perhaps that means 2am where that speculation may make more sense, but it was still premature.

The toxicology results are still not back (maybe they are) according to that latest link (3 hours old). But the times are already reporting that there was "no foul play" while in the same article say

Officials are trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was ongoing.

So if they are still trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car, how can they rule out foul play? Is that how it works?
 
It *might* be suspicious if he was found dead in his apartment with no obvious signs of suicide or overdose or something. But this was a car accident. The dude was a known drug and alcohol abuser. It was in Los Angeles, the land of car accidents.

I really don't see how anything in this situation can be seen as suspicious. People die. A LOT of people die in car accidents. Car accidents don't discriminate when it comes to who they kill.

Shit happens.

Indeed, here in the states over 100 people a day die in car accidents - its a friggin bloodbath out there. However, it's very unusual for a fuel tank to explode from a frontend hit. I'm not on my laptop to really get a good look at the pics but the front of the car is mostly still there and Mercedes really does take saftey seriously. Not impossible of But Very, Very unlikley.

And as a lifelong racer I have more than just a casual interest in driving related matters. No doubt the first things you'd do would be to replace the Mercs gas tank with a fuel cell if you were going to turn it into a race worthy vehicle; but again you just don't see cars burst into flames from frontend hits.
 
I used to believe these things were all conspiracies and simply coincidence, not any longer.

Of course I thought TWA Flight 800 was a cover up from that day (good to finally see a movie on it), Ron Brown was certainly murdered, and I imagine someone killed Brietbart.
 
I'd be interested if someone did dig that up. Fun reading.

I'll dig something up later if nobody else does, but for now here were the tenants of WTC7 on 9/11:

Wikipedia said:
At the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq ft (111,750 m2) (64 percent of the building) which included floors 28–45.[2][27] Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft/11,400 m²), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft/9,900 m²), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft/10,350 m²), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft/9,850 m²).[27] Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft/8,400 m²) and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft/7,900 m²).[27] The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management,[28] National Association of Insurance Commissioners, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.[27] The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared the 25th floor with the IRS.[2] Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as were the bottom six floors and part of the seventh floor.[2][29]