Journalist Assassinated?

dmnEPC said:
Would you believe it if I told you I actually had extensive experience with vehicle crashes. I have been on scene of dozen's of vehicle vs tree/pole/other fixed (hardly enough to be an expert) object; and in that time frame never once have I witnessed a car burn to the ground like that one. Of the vehicle fires that I have seen they mostly were from either parked vehicles, or vehicles that began to smoke and then catch fire. Typically caused by some kind of electrical problem. I know people who have hit trees at 80+ mph drunk off their ass who lived to tell about it.

I have absolutely no idea what caused that fire. But when you look at it, it just doesn't make sense. But like I said maybe you are right. Maybe this was that one in a 1,000,000 freak accident.

BTW you skipped over my question about how long it's been "well known" that he was into drugs and alcohol? It's comment's like that which causes this kind of speculation. With that kind of fire how would they know that fast if he was on something? Why even bring it up? It looks like the coroner has identified the body and confirmed it was Hastings.




I haven't found when this accident took place. Everyone is reporting "early tuesday morning". So perhaps that means 2am where that speculation may make more sense, but it was still premature.

The toxicology results are still not back (maybe they are) according to that latest link (3 hours old). But the times are already reporting that there was "no foul play" while in the same article say



So if they are still trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car, how can they rule out foul play? Is that how it works?
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In a lot of words you basically just said they're doing a normal, thorough investigation in what appears to be a pretty typical reckless driving death.
 


dchuk said:
In a lot of words you basically just said they're doing a normal, thorough investigation in what appears to be a pretty typical reckless driving death.
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Which they somehow already ruled out foul play all the while not sure what caused the accident or got the tox results. 1 question for you. How do you rule something out before you have all the facts? Basically they dont know shit and yet they are ruling stuff out. It's all to convenient. Obviously we will never know the truth so furthering this argument is pointless.

You believe everything you're told; I question everything I am told. Personality flaws? I'm sure mine is.
 
dmnEPC said:
Which they somehow already ruled out foul play all the while not sure what caused the accident or got the tox results. 1 question for you. How do you rule something out before you have all the facts? Basically they dont know shit and yet they are ruling stuff out. It's all to convenient. Obviously we will never know the truth so furthering this argument is pointless.

You believe everything you're told; I question everything I am told. Personality flaws? I'm sure mine is.
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Sooooo you're taking the side of an anonymous source?

Officials are trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was ongoing.
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That right there reads to me they're still investigating the cause...
 
dchuk said:
Sooooo you're taking the side of an anonymous source?



That right there reads to me they're still investigating the cause...
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I just realized the derp I displayed here. Ignore my point about taking the side of the anonymous source, but don't ignore the fact that you yourself quoted someone saying that they're still investigating the cause of the crash.
 
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dchuk said:
I just realized the derp I displayed here. Ignore my point about taking the side of the anonymous source, but don't ignore the fact that you yourself quoted someone saying that they're still investigating the cause of the crash.
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wut?

that was actually my whole point. They are still investigating. How can they rule foul play out?


EDIT: Even with an anonymous source the Times has already closed the case by ruling out foul play. That story will get 10,000 backlinks and get quoted time and time again that "foul play has been ruled out". So even if the investigation turns up foul play the story will be dead(the times reported there was no foul play)
 
Come on guys, like the CIA or FBI has ever assassinated anyone
 
Here is the video

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LSY3wVuASg"]Journalist Michael Hastings Dies in Fiery Crash / Hollywood RAW FOOTAGE - YouTube[/ame]

Mexican worker at the end states how witnessed going very fast, but did not witness the impact (just the flames)


Been thinking about this. How is this for a scenario

1 Paranoid guy talks to WikiLeaks all freaked out earlier
2 Paranoid guy goes and get's drunk off his ass.
3 Paranoid guy figures he is going to die anyway so drives 100 mph down hwy and hits tree
4 ???
5 ???

Often the simplest explanations are the proper explanation.
 
guys it is no secret that secret services around the world kill, kidnap whoever and whenever they want
can it be as simple as this?
 
dmnEPC said:
Been thinking about this. How is this for a scenario

1 Paranoid guy talks to WikiLeaks all freaked out earlier
2 Paranoid guy goes and get's drunk off his ass.
3 Paranoid guy figures he is going to die anyway so drives 100 mph down hwy and hits tree
4 ???
5 ???

Often the simplest explanations are the proper explanation.
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Or you mess with the guy's car slightly to disable the brakes and make the accelerator sticky. The vehicle burns so bad the evidence is destroyed. I'm not a mechanic, but I'm pretty sure there's ways you could do that.

I doubt that Wikileaks would simply make that shit up out of the blue, though. He was researching the orchestrated purge of the military and probably found out Kelley or Broadwell was an administration piece. So Obama ghosted him. Dead men tell no tales.
 
I didn't realize how close this happened to my place. I just drove by the accident scene. Someone put up a sign that read, "THIS WASN'T AN ACCIDENT!" The median is lined with palm trees for at least a mile. You would be hard pressed to miss one if your car went out of control.
 
hellblazer said:
Or you mess with the guy's car slightly to disable the brakes and make the accelerator sticky. The vehicle burns so bad the evidence is destroyed. I'm not a mechanic, but I'm pretty sure there's ways you could do that.

I doubt that Wikileaks would simply make that shit up out of the blue, though. He was researching the orchestrated purge of the military and probably found out Kelley or Broadwell was an administration piece. So Obama ghosted him. Dead men tell no tales.
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Remote control would be one way. Just cut all controll from vehicle and switch to RC. This is a known CIA practice. Either way the fire still doesnt make sense. Possibly a controlled detonation upon impact? I don't know way out of my depth. Even if no one touched that vehicle the .gov is still responsible.
 
The fact is nothing can be taken for granted... be it an accident or be it a murder.. The ultimate fact is he is dead...Now the point remains is due to drugs and alcohol or due to the damage he might have caused to the CIA...But these sort of things keep happening at agency levels...
 
Police and firefighters in Los Angeles have been ordered not to speak to the media about the deadly crash involving Rolling Stone journalist Michael Hastings, fueling speculation that some form of cover-up could be underway.

San Diego 6 journalist Kimberly Dvorak says she was unable to obtain the police report concerning the crash despite the fact that the LAPD already ruled out “foul play” days after the incident.
A gag order has also been placed on cops and firefighters who both responded to and investigated the crash, which occurred in the early hours of June 18 in the Hancock Park neighborhood of Los Angeles.
“When you go to the LA police department and you go to the fire department….they all said they couldn’t comment and some of them said they were told not to comment on this story,” said Dvorak.
The journalist added that she talked to “military personnel” who commented that the inferno which consumed Hastings’ Mercedes was an extremely hot fire that “is not something you normally see with a car like this,” and that Mercedes itself was waiting to hear from the LAPD but has not been contacted.
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Dead men tell no tale's
Good luck bro's.
 
dmnEPC said:
Which they somehow already ruled out foul play all the while not sure what caused the accident or got the tox results. 1 question for you. How do you rule something out before you have all the facts? Basically they dont know shit and yet they are ruling stuff out. It's all to convenient. Obviously we will never know the truth so furthering this argument is pointless.

You believe everything you're told; I question everything I am told. Personality flaws? I'm sure mine is.
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the powers that be had him assassinated, but I would be surprised if local law enforcement was privy to the assassination.


cpauser said:
if 911 is a conspiracy why would the govt. make such a glaring mistake by destroying an unrelated building? Or is it to make us question the conspiracy as I'm doing now?
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Hypothetically, because they could make sure the vast majority of a half-assed investigation was classified and after a period of time people would stop talking/caring about it altogether (minus a small few who would be labeled lunatics).
 
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