Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy



That would be the case with other religion, but not Islam where apostasy is dealt with death by hanging. (i.e: if you were born into a Muslim family you stay in or you die)

It is commonly said that Islam is the "fastest growing religion" unfortunately much of that growth is through threat of force.


@you those that posted the offensive Zombie Jesus. Please note how willing everyone is to mock Christianity. Those same people rarely are willing to do the same against Islam.

This Muslim (Veena Malik) is not afraid to point out Molestations by Islam Clerics.

Not certain how to link videos:

Veena Malik
 
It is commonly said that Islam is the "fastest growing religion" unfortunately much of that growth is through threat of force.


@you those that posted the offensive Zombie Jesus. Please note how willing everyone is to mock Christianity. Those same people rarely are willing to do the same against Islam.

This Muslim (Veena Malik) is not afraid to point out Molestations by Islam Clerics.

Not certain how to link videos:

Veena Malik

Nobody is afraid to point out molestation as that's illegal by law.

They're just afraid to denounce Islam because apostasy = death.

Look up "wafa sultan" on youtube.
 
Nobody is afraid to point out molestation as that's illegal by law.

They're just afraid to denounce Islam.

That's interesting. So they openly denounce clerics that participate in this behavior and that is OK? I had never heard of the molestation in the Mosques until this video - I had heard a little about the "dancing boys" but I figured that was more in the outskirt villages and not mainstream.

A Pakistani friend of mine said crazy stuff happens in the outskirts under the umbrella of Islam - then these crazies infiltrate the cities and start enforcing crazy Islamic laws and no one does anything about it because the "crazy behavior" is backed by the clerics. So where is the Muslim outrage? Silenced for fear of death?

Like I have said in other posts - I am willing to change my mind on things - but where are the facts? So far I see a lot of condoned killings etc. I hear of girls being raped and then killed for no longer being pure. I hear of men who can throw acid on a girls face because she did not want a date. And all of this, as I hear it, and could be wrong, without any ramifications for the perpetrators.
 
Generalizing anyone who is Muslim just makes you a paranoid pussy. Probably never left your cul de sac suburban lifestyle to meet anyone else besides your other white tunnel-visioned corn fed townies. I agree with Avatar33. This whole story comes from an Anti-Islam site....like what do you fucking expect?

Point is: If you generalize, you don't have the mental capacity to debate topics like this anyway, so stick to your fruit loops and xbox.

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So what your saying (just so I understand) is that those of us that are well off enough through luck, hardwork, station, breeding, education, etc... shouldn't live in suburbia where we feel comfortable? Obviously we are spending to much time with our neighbors, and co-workers that are all in the same boat as us.

We should spend time in the sticks with the hillbillies, the ghetto, and third world countries with out proper plumbing.

Got it - going to go get my greyhound pass and go slum it for a few months. I'll report back if the muslims don't get me.
 
HOW TO SPOT A SMART STATEMENT:

Im not going to ask every muslim I meet if they practice Islam, Im not going to ask them if they will kill me when the time is right. I cant tell from looking at them if they are friendly or not/Islam or not/etc. Knowing the ones that have something to hide will lie to me anyway, the safer bet for me is to just not get involved.
...This is a SMART statement.

Sonny Forelli said:
Also watch out for white hicks like McVeigh and loners who like computers like the Unabomber.
...This one, not so much.
 
Taking of Palestinian land WAS legal, as Israel is recognized by most of the countries. 36 countries not recognizing Israel include most of the countries recognized as a terrorist or with serious political problems. I don't say Israel creation was moral or not, just saying it was legal.

Hey I support the state of Israel, I just don't support their constant expansion. They are still pretty much treating Palestinians like shit, and even a large chunk or Israelis believe this and don't support what their government is doing. And whether it's legal or not isn't my point. I'm saying that this is one (big) reason they give for attacking the US and others. If the U.S. took a non-intervention approach (i.e. quit giving them money) to Israel, Israel would still do what they want, but America wouldn't be blamed.

What terrifies me most is the fact (correct me if I'm wrong) that you and few other guys in this thread try to justify objectives of Al Qaeda instead of at least trying to cut off any relation between Muslims and Al Qaeda.

HELL NO! I've never tried to justify killing innocent people for some political end. All I've said is that American government bombs countries and had killed hundreds of thousands, probably millions of innocent people. Al Qaeda does the same. Neither is ok, period.


I did not say all Muslims are bad. I start my first post in this thread saying "I spoke to a nice Muslim lady yesterday". I know Muslims personally. Some of my neighbors are Muslim. Also some of co-workers. But I feel there is a problem in Muslim community. And I'm talking about day-to-day life not a terrorism. People don't dislike Muslims because a group of Muslims made the attacks. They dislike Muslims for their attitude towards Western world where they often live. For their inability to adapt or compromise. If the relations between West and Muslims were OK we wouldn't have this discussion, don't you think so?

And I said I agree with you and they need to take a more proactive approach within their own communitie to stop violence as a means to accomplish their goals. And I also said I've heard a number of muslims denounce attacks, especially on civilians. I've also heard a number say that the Koran specifically prohibits harming the innocent.
 
That's interesting. So they openly denounce clerics that participate in this behavior and that is OK? I had never heard of the molestation in the Mosques until this video - I had heard a little about the "dancing boys" but I figured that was more in the outskirt villages and not mainstream.

A Pakistani friend of mine said crazy stuff happens in the outskirts under the umbrella of Islam - then these crazies infiltrate the cities and start enforcing crazy Islamic laws and no one does anything about it because the "crazy behavior" is backed by the clerics. So where is the Muslim outrage? Silenced for fear of death?

Like I have said in other posts - I am willing to change my mind on things - but where are the facts? So far I see a lot of condoned killings etc. I hear of girls being raped and then killed for no longer being pure. I hear of men who can throw acid on a girls face because she did not want a date. And all of this, as I hear it, and could be wrong, without any ramifications for the perpetrators.

Wait, what?

These things are condemned by Muslims world wide wherever you go.

Honor killing is a cultural thing that are only practiced by Muslims(or even non-muslims) of certain cultural background. (i.e Pakistani, Turkish, Indian) This does not happen in S.E Asia for example. Indonesia represents 50% of world muslim population and honor killing is not a problem here.

Muslims do however kill people that make fun of the prophet, Allah, and the holy book. Muslims also kill apostates.

The reason why there's no bodies out there condemning these militant activities you just described is the same reason why no organization in the US condemned Saddam or Gaddafi for the past 40 years.

p/s: Wafa Sultan did bring up a 9 y/o nephew that was forcibly married to a 40 y/o man who ended up setting herself on fire when she couldn't take it anymore.
 
I do, and I dont ask if they practice Islam as I never needed to.

In this day and age, if you run across an extremist they will most likely smile and be nice to you while planning to kill hundreds of your co-workers later when the time is called for. Lets not forget there are plenty of groups already within the USA waiting and planning for attacks. They are going to say whatever they need as to not blow their cover.

Im not going to ask every muslim I meet if they practice Islam, Im not going to ask them if they will kill me when the time is right. I cant tell from looking at them if they are friendly or not/Islam or not/etc. Knowing the ones that have something to hide will lie to me anyway, the safer bet for me is to just not get involved.

So how do you differentiate between an Indian and a Paki?

You cook some curry?

Isolating Muslims is just going to make it worse, that's how Bloods started.

soo wooppp!
 
So how do you differentiate between an Indian and a Paki?

You cook some curry?

Isolating Muslims is just going to make it worse, that's how Bloods started.

soo wooppp!

I like curry. not a lot though, just a small amount.

As far as differentiating between those 2 groups, we have almost none of either where I live and I didnt pick where I live based on that ( nb4 someone says i did ), its just how it worked out long before I even had this belief.

I hate to profile, but thats what I would do and prob lump the wrong people in the wrong group. However, its not like I am grouping them in and then doing something profane or vulgar to them. Its not like I group them in and then ask them for a full cavity search. They dont even know they are lumped in.

Im not advocating others isolate muslims in case people have missed that point. Im stating that I personally am.

I dont see how me doing it myself is creating what the bloods created. Im not out protesting or trying to get people to join my cause.

On the flip side, there could be a white guy sitting next to me on a plane that is a muslim extremist and will blow up the plane that I dont know about. Thats just how it is. However, that doesnt stop me from seeing something I view as potential danger and still trying to avoid it if I can, when I can.
 
Why Islam is evil, straight from the Koran-

I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.

Quran 8:12, "The Spoils," Dawood, p. 177

Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage.

Quran 2:190-2:191, "The Cow," Dawood, p. 28

When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.

Quran 9:5; "Repentance," Dawood, p. 186

Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.

Quran 9:73, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 198

Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.

Quran 9:123, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 206

Those that make war against God and His apostle and spread disorder in the land shall be slain and crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land.

Quran 5:33, "The Table," Dawood, p. 112

A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.

Quran 4:11, "Women," Dawood, p. 77

And it goes on and on....

Islam is an evil religion filled with mindless zombies that think killing someone with opposite beliefs is ok. There is a reason for a fear of Muslims, they are bat shit crazy.

FUCK ISLAM

* You can find all the quotes on this site- Koran Quotes | Quran | Quotes about Islam it also links the text to the actual Koran.
 
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I dont know when people are going to finally realize that religion causes more problems than good in this world. Guess what people, theres a good chance EVERYONE can be wrong and we are just killing for no reason. Horrible video.

Are you trying to say if we remove religion there would be peace; or was that just an ignoramus statement.

I believe the Russians already disproved that point, and eugenics wasn't much of a stretch from pure evil. I think the other side should be a little more humble considering its own history.
 
I hear that muslims sometimes put concrete up peoples asses when they die because they are afraid of demon snakes going up in there in the grave. Any credence to this?

YouTube - Punishment in the Grave!!

Holy Shit that's one venomous grave scorpion! It stung the camel and when a dude kicked the camel his leg fell off, now that's a lot of venom...

And those snakes better not bite the earth cause I really like fruits and vegetables.... :uhoh2:
 
Are you trying to say if we remove religion there would be peace; or was that just an ignoramus statement.

I believe the Russians already disproved that point, and eugenics wasn't much of a stretch from pure evil. I think the other side should be a little more humble considering its own history.

We wouldn't know unless we try. Japan seems to be doing fine.

If you don’t pray, what do you do during troubling times? Living the Serenity Prayer makes the most sense: Can it be fixed? Then fix it. If it can’t be fixed? Accept it with maturity.

Should atheists be trying to convince others to stop believing in God? Yes. Encouraging people, actively or passively, to believe in a fantasy hinders their maturity.

Is all religion harmful? Yes. It holds a false promise of an afterlife. It has an authoritarian power over the people who follow it. It uses their money to glorify individuals (Pope! Robertson! Dobson!) and does little for poverty, disease and quality secular education. It keeps adults in a child-like state.

Would the world be better off without any religion? Yes. Everyone would be rated on their mature judgment and critical-thinking skills. And the money would be put to much better use.

What happens when we die? The human body is a “wet-cell battery”. When the electrical power dies, the body dies and consciousness winks out like a television screen that’s been turned off. This concept is too scary for children and childlike adults.

Source: blog comment on God is for Suckers! » Blog Archive » Atheism As Self Actualization
 
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Do you even study history, or are you just spewing atheist propaganda without looking at already known facts.
Taking the spirit out of the body, creates an interesting dilemma. You can now treat people like livestock. Ask atheists like Stalin and Mao; both killed millions for a good cause. Your atheist so called nirvana, created hell for close to 100 million ordinary people here on earth.


RE Japan. FYI the religious America isn't doing to bad either.
 
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We wouldn't know unless we try. Japan seems to be doing fine.

If you don’t pray, what do you do during troubling times? Living the Serenity Prayer makes the most sense: Can it be fixed? Then fix it. If it can’t be fixed? Accept it with maturity.

Should atheists be trying to convince others to stop believing in God? Yes. Encouraging people, actively or passively, to believe in a fantasy hinders their maturity.

Is all religion harmful? Yes. It holds a false promise of an afterlife. It has an authoritarian power over the people who follow it. It uses their money to glorify individuals (Pope! Robertson! Dobson!) and does little for poverty, disease and quality secular education. It keeps adults in a child-like state.

Would the world be better off without any religion? Yes. Everyone would be rated on their mature judgment and critical-thinking skills. And the money would be put to much better use.

What happens when we die? The human body is a “wet-cell battery”. When the electrical power dies, the body dies and consciousness winks out like a television screen that’s been turned off. This concept is too scary for children and childlike adults.

Source: blog comment on God is for Suckers! » Blog Archive » Atheism As Self Actualization
QFT. Spot-fucking on man!
 
It uses their money to glorify individuals (Pope! Robertson! Dobson!) and does little for poverty, disease and quality secular education. It keeps adults in a child-like state.

Check again my friend. Religious charities are everywhere.

Would the world be better off without any religion? Yes. Everyone would be rated on their mature judgment and critical-thinking skills. And the money would be put to much better use.

How is religion "rating" people? Many Christians pride themselves in their critical thinking skills. (this and many other sites like it http://www.reasons.org/) If you are making the argument that people make better use of their personal money, then we can follow that to the conclusion that if they choose to put it toward the good works of a Christian charity that is their choice. If you are saying the money is better off in the hands, of say, a secular government. Well, then, of course, that is completely wrong.
 
Live Leak - More than than 4000 people from police and teachers to monks and children have been killed in the past 7 years by Muslims in southern Thailand, but hardly a word in the mainstream media. In Southern Thailand Muslim gunmen continue killing and threatening innocent citizens. The Muslim insurgents have threatened to kill 20 teachers and have distributed fliers that said, “WANTED: 20 Deaths of Buddhist teachers.” Muslim terrorists object to the education system which teaches Buddhist culture that is not acceptable in Islam. The attacks are intended to force Buddhists to leave the region because Muslims want to create an independent Muslim nation in the three southern provinces."

Seriously! That's really messed up!
 
We wouldn't know unless we try. Japan seems to be doing fine.

If you don’t pray, what do you do during troubling times? Living the Serenity Prayer makes the most sense: Can it be fixed? Then fix it. If it can’t be fixed? Accept it with maturity.

Should atheists be trying to convince others to stop believing in God? Yes. Encouraging people, actively or passively, to believe in a fantasy hinders their maturity.

Is all religion harmful? Yes. It holds a false promise of an afterlife. It has an authoritarian power over the people who follow it. It uses their money to glorify individuals (Pope! Robertson! Dobson!) and does little for poverty, disease and quality secular education. It keeps adults in a child-like state.

Would the world be better off without any religion? Yes. Everyone would be rated on their mature judgment and critical-thinking skills. And the money would be put to much better use.

What happens when we die? The human body is a “wet-cell battery”. When the electrical power dies, the body dies and consciousness winks out like a television screen that’s been turned off. This concept is too scary for children and childlike adults.

Source: blog comment on God is for Suckers! » Blog Archive » Atheism As Self Actualization

MOAR
 
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I like curry. not a lot though, just a small amount.

As far as differentiating between those 2 groups, we have almost none of either where I live and I didnt pick where I live based on that ( nb4 someone says i did ), its just how it worked out long before I even had this belief.

I hate to profile, but thats what I would do and prob lump the wrong people in the wrong group. However, its not like I am grouping them in and then doing something profane or vulgar to them. Its not like I group them in and then ask them for a full cavity search. They dont even know they are lumped in.

Im not advocating others isolate muslims in case people have missed that point. Im stating that I personally am.

I dont see how me doing it myself is creating what the bloods created. Im not out protesting or trying to get people to join my cause.

On the flip side, there could be a white guy sitting next to me on a plane that is a muslim extremist and will blow up the plane that I dont know about. Thats just how it is. However, that doesnt stop me from seeing something I view as potential danger and still trying to avoid it if I can, when I can.