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It's no secret that temporal relevancy fuels the fire of many a political debate. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing considering how shitty and apathetic the vast majority of Americans are. I'd rather people argue about gun control than motherfucking lady gaga or something equally meaningless.

How about this then: Why does the .gov need to know (and collect $$) if I decide to pass on my VEHICLE to my children?

How about this then: Why do i become a criminal for borrowing a friends VEHICLE w/o being properly licensed myself?

I'm admittedly ill-informed about this topic so I'll refrain from answering.

Why is it bad to add additional impositions to law abiding citizens? You aren't taking anything away from them, just making it a little more challenging to acquire something in the interest of increasing safety all around. It would be no different than making the driving test harder.


Second Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this not exactly what I've repeatedly said I think we need more of? More thorough safety and operational training and licensing processes for an objectively violent and dangerous piece of property?

Comparing a gun to a car... makes perfect sense. That's like, umm, comparing apples to apples.
 


In these types of threads, I try to keep silent. I try to sit on the sidelines and let other people have their say. But sometimes, folks say things that are so completely wrong that a response is necessary.

To NOT respond would be to give such nonsense credence. In other words, Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit. (He who is silent is taken to agree; he ought to have spoken when he was able to.)

And so respond I must...




















Only fags and commies put ketchup on hot dogs. Mustard only, homey.

Probably the most factual statement that will be made in this thread.


I am not a homosexual. I am not a commie. And I most definitely enjoy ketchup on hot dogs.
 
It would be no different than making the driving test harder.

don't you think its important to prove that a harder driving test would create safer roads before adding yet more red tape?

Why is it bad to add additional impositions to law abiding citizens?

do you see endless red tape, oversight & regulation as costless?
 
Privileges are limited to a small amount of people. If the majority of Americans can drive, that isn't a privilege.

How the fuck are privileges limited to "small groups of people"?

Try getting your license taken away then for say DUII, reckless driving, too many tickets, ect. It's a privilege.
 
Here's a fun theory for you gais to bat around;

What if Neo-Conservatives or even ultra-right-wingers like Dredsen put together the marathon bombing in order to influence this vote that obomba lost today?

Obomba has been after assault rifles first, and by a lessor degree all guns second... So if you believe that he's been using events like Sandy Hook to constantly scare americans away from guns, then it's a short hop to believe that his opponents would want to make americans see that there are other, more scary things to be worried about... The day before a vote on guns.

It's just a thought, I don't honestly care anymore... The final battle over 'Murika will be fought on an entirely different battlefield, so gun rights won't come into the final equation.

But how likely do you guys think it could be?
 
Here's a fun theory for you gais to bat around;

What if Neo-Conservatives or even ultra-right-wingers like Dredsen put together the marathon bombing in order to influence this vote that obomba lost today?

Obomba has been after assault rifles first, and by a lessor degree all guns second... So if you believe that he's been using events like Sandy Hook to constantly scare americans away from guns, then it's a short hop to believe that his opponents would want to make americans see that there are other, more scary things to be worried about... The day before a vote on guns.

i think that's got merit.

The final battle over 'Murika will be fought on an entirely different battlefield, so gun rights won't come into the final equation.

agreed.
 
i think that's got merit.

How? You don't do something like this because a bill is coming up for vote in the US Senate or Congress.

To carry out something like this it takes a very deep-seated hatred, which takes a long time to manifest itself. This was some Islamist fundamentalists, or maybe a hardcore right-wing group tired of what they perceive as socialism in the US, or maybe a fringe element of an anarchist group, or whatever.

You don't carry out an attack like this without having a very hardcore and devoted ideology behind it, and a simple bill coming up for a vote just isn't enough. It could have maybe affected their timing, but definitely not their decision to carry out the attack.
 
You don't carry out an attack like this without having a very hardcore and devoted ideology behind it, and a simple bill coming up for a vote just isn't enough. It could have maybe affected their timing, but definitely not their decision to carry out the attack.
You have no idea who did it or why.
 
You have no idea who did it or why.

Bet ya 5 Bitcoins the motive is ideologically driven. :P

I'm quite confident some rather sane and rational people weren't sitting around one day, then, "Congress is going to vote on what?!? that's it, we're blowing up Boston!"
 
Bet ya 5 Bitcoins the motive is ideologically driven. :P
You can't prove motive. No one can.

You're a bad poster who has somehow managed to post long enough you've become part of the acceptable fabric of low grade, shit posts around here.

Stop posting.
 
Right but what about slavery? Or female suffrage? Pretty weak argument yo

No it isn't. Those are rights too, and the laws permitting slavery and banning women's suffrage were easily violations of the tenth amendment. Please learn before you argue constitutional law.
 
How? You don't do something like this because a bill is coming up for vote in the US Senate or Congress.

To carry out something like this it takes a very deep-seated hatred, which takes a long time to manifest itself. This was some Islamist fundamentalists, or maybe a hardcore right-wing group tired of what they perceive as socialism in the US, or maybe a fringe element of an anarchist group, or whatever.

You don't carry out an attack like this without having a very hardcore and devoted ideology behind it, and a simple bill coming up for a vote just isn't enough. It could have maybe affected their timing, but definitely not their decision to carry out the attack.

i didn't say it was true, i said it had merit. remove all your absolutes from the above argument, and your argument has merit as well.

but neither you nor anyone else can claim to know why yet, and people aren't called extremists for nothing. don't use common logic to disprove possibilities in a situation like this.