The Decline Of Men

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This article from CNN talks about how women are now better educated, more ambitious, and more successful than men.

Why men are in trouble - CNN.com

What bothers me about this is how women have become more aggressive and are acting more like men these days, while our society keeps telling them this is a good thing.

It's one thing for women to have a career but I think a lot of the aggressiveness and other traits women use to get a position at work and move up the company ladder have carried over into their social lives and how they react to men outside the office.

What makes things even worse is our mainstream media. The scripted TV shows these days always seem to have a strong woman married to a bumbling man who acts more like a child and is always being berated by his woman for doing dumb, childish things...or basically not acting like a man.

I'm sure this is a winning formula for good ratings but I think it puts men in a bad light. If today's man is being portrayed as an idiot with Peter Pan syndrome who constantly needs his wife's help to get through life, how does that shape the minds of men who are watching these shows?

IMO, women's lib supported by the liberal media has turned men into women and women into men.
 


Who do young males have to turn to? Specifically young white males.

Women have positive reinforcement all around them, you have all these "strong" women such as Oprah, the View, ect (I dont watch TV so I cant name others off the top of my head) telling them what to do, how amazing they are and essentially being roll models for women. Sexual harassment, affirmative action, ect is always AGAINT men, white men.

If you a minority or a women, you have everyone on your side, the government, special interest groups, you name it, theres a group to fight for you.

Who has the back of a young white male? No one. And if one were to start some type of support system for young white males you're suddenly a racist.
 
I don't think this is the decline of men, instead it's the rise of women.

Men need to wake up and smell the roses. Success in this world is increasingly becoming more mental and less physical. We HAD a solid advantage over women when strength truly mattered, it's gone now.

It's really not a big deal, men just need to realize that they have to bring something to the table other than a penis.
 
Males and white males don't need fucking support systems because we are superior. I don't need the government or some special interest group whispering in my ear that I am not worthless because I already know I am not worthless.

Well, folks like me, you and most of WF are Alphas at the top of the food chain. What if your dad was a pussy or a dead beat? What if you didnt have a dad, or were abused as a child, those are the types of people that need that positive reinforcement, the majority of males actually.
 
Thank you CNN for my regularly scheduled blast of feminist and liberal indoctrination. :repuke:

If today's man is being portrayed as an idiot with Peter Pan syndrome who constantly needs his wife's help to get through life, how does that shape the minds of men who are watching these shows?

It shapes them for the worse. Which is exactly what the feminist and liberal agenda wants.

And I disagree that it's the rise of women. Women acting like men is not something to aspire to or rise up to. Women should act like women, men like men. Feminism strips otherwise beautiful women of their true feminine charm, and makes men act like pathetic groveling pussies and you get the current debt laden, quasi-socialist, collapsing society we have now. And the more men act like losers the more women feel they have to act like men and the more down the drain we go. Yay!

I'm just sick to death of hearing about this. Feminism is no better than affirmative action. I have no problem with different people having the same opportunities (which we have in this country), but having a socially entrenched and media enriched culture of 'gotta help the minority' (how is 50% of the population a minority) is killing us.

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I wouldn't worry about it too much. The whole thing will self regulate. If you get a bunch of guys together, they'll gravitate to follow the most aggressive douche in the room (cf Pol Pot, Stalin, Mussolini). This doesn't usually bode well for world peace, but people who are outside the group need to fear.

If you get a bunch of girls together, they'll agree for about 10 minutes, and then secretly start plotting to undermine one another. Come back 10 years later, they're still at it.

Girl News: Why Girls Hate Each Other | VICE


On an individual basis, women are far more effective than men in my experience of working with them. If you suggest a course of action to most men, they'll argue with you as to why it won't work. Women will get on and do it, then report back later. (of course, this doesn't count if you're in a relationship with the person you make the suggestion to. Different rules apply there, as ever)
 
Well, folks like me, you and most of WF are Alphas at the top of the food chain. What if your dad was a pussy or a dead beat? What if you didnt have a dad, or were abused as a child, those are the types of people that need that positive reinforcement, the majority of males actually.

I concur. My guess is a lot of these emasculated young males these days are that way because of a lack of father figure due to women raising kids on their own now along with dead beat dads who aren't around.

Then these young boys grow up, get married, and start acting like these losers you see on TV sitcoms who let the woman run the house.
 
Also, introduce me to some 'empowered' chick and ill be slaying that ass by the end of the night, no bitch is going to pull the empowerment shit on me.
 
This article from CNN talks about how women are now better educated, more ambitious, and more successful than men.

Why men are in trouble - CNN.com

What bothers me about this is how women have become more aggressive and are acting more like men these days, while our society keeps telling them this is a good thing.

It's one thing for women to have a career but I think a lot of the aggressiveness and other traits women use to get a position at work and move up the company ladder have carried over into their social lives and how they react to men outside the office.

What makes things even worse is our mainstream media. The scripted TV shows these days always seem to have a strong woman married to a bumbling man who acts more like a child and is always being berated by his woman for doing dumb, childish things...or basically not acting like a man.

I'm sure this is a winning formula for good ratings but I think it puts men in a bad light. If today's man is being portrayed as an idiot with Peter Pan syndrome who constantly needs his wife's help to get through life, how does that shape the minds of men who are watching these shows?

IMO, women's lib supported by the liberal media has turned men into women and women into men.

100% agree with this. It pisses me off so much.

All TV is basically a subconcious assault on men behaving like men.


Fuck all that.
 
If today's man is being portrayed as an idiot with Peter Pan syndrome who constantly needs his wife's help to get through life, how does that shape the minds of men who are watching these shows
The problem is that the majority of women today have bigger balls than their husbands and boyfriends. In my opinion, and i know I still have a lot of learning to do, and I'll probably catch shit from the married guys on this board, but in my opinion women are usually a hindrance to success.
 
And I disagree that it's the rise of women. Women acting like men is not something to aspire to or rise up to. Women should act like women, men like men. Feminism strips otherwise beautiful women of their true feminine charm, and makes men act like pathetic groveling pussies and you get the current debt laden, quasi-socialist, collapsing society we have now. And the more men act like losers the more women feel they have to act like men and the more down the drain we go. Yay!

I think you misunderstood me. There seems to be two conversations going on in this thread. One is about women and their success/ambition in a business sense. The other conversation is a bunch of dudes bitching about how men are portrayed on TV.

I'm talking business, careers, and success. We (men) don't have an advantage anymore because it's a mental game now, not a physical one.

I'm not advocating women to act like men, but I hope you don't think women having a career are "trying to act like men".

I look at most things in life from a business perspective. From this perspective, I like women entering the workforce and becoming competitive. It means I have that many more potential employees and business partners.
 
but in my opinion women are usually a hindrance to success.

They absolutely are, its hard to work 12 hours a day and get bitched at. I get in a fight like once a month with my gf about how I dont spend enough time with her, I always stand my ground and I also have never considered living with her after 3 years. Too many men would bitch up and cut back on working to spend 'quality time' with their girl...I know many of them.
 
There is a reason we say "bitch make me a sammich" and its not the other way around. If you believe that women are better than men I feel really really sorry for you