Wanted by the police
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Seriously though - why won't Egypt just give up the Sinai Peninsula and call it Palestine? Problem solved.
I believe that should say "...Muslim land" because most of those people are not arabs.
Yet they are all allied against Israel.
BTW, David vs. Goliath is also the original Jewish story, just from ~3,000 years ago. That is hell of resilience and continuity of culture.
If you want to compare with Arab-only countries (first pic missed a few), here is a more accurate picture:
If Israel had annexed the territories in 1967 they would have done away with the land issue. But they didn't and don't want to because giving citizenship to the Arabs would make Israel a non-Jewish state. Even now its citizens are only 75% Jewish, counting Arabs inside Israel proper and non-Jewish Russians etc. So if Israel keeps all the land you've still got the problem of non-Jewish democracy vs. Jewish apartheid. Unless you want to "transfer" the Arabs out like Meir Kahane did. And that would throw the entire world into chaos.
In my opinion, Israel should have enforced complete population exchange right after the 1967 war, just like Greece/Turkey did right after World War I. That is the reason Greeks and Turks are not at war with each other, except for the only place where this exchange failed to take place: Cyprus.
Palestinian autonomy and blockade of Gaza are really just stopgap solutions for the "mixed population problem" you describe. Israel cannot allow Arabs within their borders to build up their own armed forces because they will turn their guns on Israeli. Which is precisely what Hamas and Hezbollah want and have been doing.
All these idiot "Middle-East Peace Moderators" who refuse to deal with the issue of Israel security are just cynical politicians trying to score points. The only way to make peace is to force Arabs to recognize Israel's right to exist and make the peace treaty, but Arab leaders know that if they do it, like Egypt President Anwar El Sadat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in 1979, they will be also assassinated. So they are stoking rhetoric against Israel just to keep their own people under control. Even Dubai, the most open and modern place in the Middle East, fully supports Israel embargo.
If anyone here has an actual solution to the Middle East conflict that addresses these issues, by all means post it here.
The size of the 'arab' world is irrelevant you dumb fucks; the land in question was stolen. Palestinians have a right to self determination.
Just as much right as the native tribes in North America had, just as much right as my people have and just as much right you fuckers have if anyone decides to come and steal your land..
The blatant Israeli lovefest in this thread is frankly sickening. Sin é.
Just as much right as the native tribes in North America had, just as much right as my people have and just as much right you fuckers have if anyone decides to come and steal your land..
The blatant Israeli lovefest in this thread is frankly sickening. Sin é.
bcc, since you are describing the formula that koschei is following, here is an explanation of the formula that everyone in the discussion is following:
Keep Your Identity Small
He explains why it isn't possible to have a useful religious discussion. (I'm sure we'll keep trying though...)
Keep Your Identity Small
He explains why it isn't possible to have a useful religious discussion. (I'm sure we'll keep trying though...)
Part of the Israel-Egypt peace agreement had to do with attacks being staged out of Sinai. Palestinians in Egypt are currently banned from having their own schools or groups where Palestinian issues can be discussed. Right or wrong, this censorship is being done to try to prevent radical elements from springing up. If Egypt doesn't even want them forming groups, then they're not going to give them land to let them do whatever they want with.
I guess I was being facetious. In other words, why does everyone expect Israel to give up land, when nobody else is willing to? The other Arab states claim they just want their "Palestinian brothers" to have a homeland, yet they won't give an ounce of their own land to settle the issue. Israel has done some really shady shit, but I gotta side with them on this one.
The people that claim Israel stole the land - that goes for everybody, everywhere. At some point in time, pretty much every nation took their land by force. I'm sure the Visigoths want their land back too but at some point it's time to move on.
Maybe they could move them to Saudi or Libyan desert...
I would certainly be sympathetic to Visigoths. After all Arabs stole their land too: Umayyad conquest of Hispania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They're just jealous that the Arabs blow up more shit now that the fucking IRA gave up.
That's really not it, I don't think.
I think the Palestinians just want the Jewish people to collectively stand up and say "We know this land was stolen, but we don't care, so fuck you."
But we won't say that, because then the rest of the world can't be seen to support us. And without all that support, maybe the Palestinians and their supporters (which would probably be the world, at that point) could storm in and take Israel back.
Which, of course, is why they want us to say it in the first place.
A secular one-state solution is in my view the only one that has the chance of satisfying the majority (who just want peace) on both sides. Shame that it's always the extremists that shout the loudest.
