Went To The Bank Guess What I See

350mm people in the USA, not all are going to be well off or smart.

Some of you fuckers should read this and STFU. Some of it is bullshit, but LOTS of it is a fact of life for some people.

Being Poor Whatever
 


So what stops citizens from going that route and getting welfare on the side when not eligible or getting multiple welfare "accounts" (or whatever they are called) to get more benefits?

That's a completely different problem.



Can you post a link to one of those states' license eligibility requirements and document requirements for their DMV offices?

Otherwise, I call bullshit.

Most states require a foreign passport with a valid visa before they would even consider issuing you a license. And I don't even think all types of visas qualify.

Also don't forget to check the social security office, which sure as fuck doesn't give out numbers to illegal immigrants.

From a quick Google search:

Eleven states issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens, including Alaska, Connecticut, Idaho, Louisiana, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Utah, Washington and West Virginia. In 2003, California's Governor Davis signed into law a bill that would give illegals drivers licenses. It is widely believed that this was the final act that contributed to his 2003 recall. Immediately after this law was signed, hundreds of thousands of signatures were collected that would have placed the question on the March 2004 general election ballot. Incoming Governor Schwarzenegger annulled the law, purportedly so that the electorate would not have a chance to vote on the issue.
 
It's mostly immigrant people who have a culture that will never turn down something as long as it's free.

You are kidding, right?

My best headlines contain the word free. And judging by the names in my list, most of them are Americans.

Kind of irritating, but if I had their upbringing I'd probably be just like them.

You are just like them :) Maybe in denial a bit, but nonetheless the same greedy and full of fear human being.
 
From a quick Google search:
Right. And I got a blog that tells you how you can lose 50 pounds of fat in 3 days. So it must be true. ROFL. Dude, I could understand some hillbilly being confused about what's written on the internwebs. But someone who posts bullshit online for a living should be above that :)

Just search for Nevada DMV for example. And you'll see the requirements which include either a green card or some other proof of legal status.

The same thing with Louisiana.

You can pick a few more states to check if you feel like it.

And yet, it's in that magic list you posted.
 
How exactly would an illegal immigrant get welfare?

I hear all the right-wingers bitch about illegals getting welfare. But none of them actually explains how that's possible.

I've never been to a welfare office, but I would imagine one would have to provide sufficient paperwork to prove their legal status before getting any benefits.

And considering that all local DMV offices across the country now have direct links to immigration services, getting a driver's license isn't that easy either. I'm pretty sure SS office also checks with the immigration before issuing a number.

So if they can't provide a state ID and/or SS card, how the fuck are they supposed to be able to get anything at all?

I'm not even going to ask how you figured they are illegals just by looking at them, as that would expose what a piece of shit you really are.

In general, it's amazing that you are broke and miserable, and yet you support the right-wing elite by trying to associate yourself with them.

Let me open a big secret: you are not one of them.

You are just a pathetic, racist, pissed-at-life all-hating trash.

So it seems like you should at least try to support people who pretend that they care about you (the left). But instead, you actually support those who openly shit on you.

Kinda like the poor man fighting for the rich man's slaves. Nothing original, I guess.

Its called identity fraud. Illegals use it everyday to get jobs, welfare and other tax paid goodies and your liberal politicians turn the other cheek to it hoping for the vote.
 
350mm people in the USA, not all are going to be well off or smart.

Some of you fuckers should read this and STFU. Some of it is bullshit, but LOTS of it is a fact of life for some people.

Being Poor Whatever

I agree. Sure there is people that cant function, and I dont mind helping.
But most people I know on welfare, take advantage of it and are capable of working. I'm talking about healthy grown man and woman. I grow up very poor, but I've been working since I was 13. I'm not the smartest or had no advantage in life, other then working hard and doing my research.
I personally know people that take advantage of the system and work for cash on the side. All the kids got college paid for, they pay $50 / month for rent (section 8), the've never paid cash for food; and then they preach to me about how to be a better person. No fuck this. Dont have any sympathy for the majority of welfare recipients.
 
Right. And I got a blog that tells you how you can lose 50 pounds of fat in 3 days. So it must be true. ROFL. Dude, I could understand some hillbilly being confused about what's written on the internwebs. But someone who posts bullshit online for a living should be above that :)

Just search for Nevada DMV for example. And you'll see the requirements which include either a green card or some other proof of legal status.

The same thing with Louisiana.

You can pick a few more states to check if you feel like it.

And yet, it's in that magic list you posted.


You're lucky I didn't post something from Yahoo Answers. :D

But seriously I double checked that list at several places and it seems to be solid. Plus I remember the whole Davis fiasco, so it's obviously a hot button issue.

Just because it's fucking retarded doesn't mean it's not true. You should expect incompetence from the gov by now.

Driver's License Requirements Pushing Illegal Immigrants to Washington. - KNDO/KNDU Tri-Cities, Yakima, WA |
 
I think it actually would be pretty interesting to have a group of people all go on the 3rd to the nearest welfare office and record what kind of people show up. Right now, all you get is mostly a lot of opinion from both sides. We like to think that our welfare tax dollars aren't being wasted, but unfortunately I think that is too often the case.
 
Its called identity fraud. Illegals use it everyday to get jobs, welfare and other tax paid goodies and your liberal politicians turn the other cheek to it hoping for the vote.

Fraud is a totally different problem. Citizens use it everyday to scam a shitload of people out of shitload of money.

I'm not a liberal. I'm just not a retard, and I don't base my opinion about reality on someone's talking points.
 
Workfare, not welfare.

Lots of trash needs to be picked up, old folks taken care of, grafitti cleaned up, etc. You need goobermint assistance? Here's a J.O.B.

WORKfare.

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On a side note, my mama had to go on welfare for a couple of years after my dad ran out on her and us 4 kids. She worked 2 jobs for years just to pay the rent and keep us clothed and fed. She mostly needed the Medicare because health care costs for 4 kids were totally out of control even back then.

To the asswipes who think everyone who needs a helping hand is a 'scumbag lowlife lazy bitch': fuck you.

To the scumbag lowlife lazy bitches who think welfare is a viable career choice: fuck you too.
 
But seriously I double checked that list at several places and it seems to be solid.
There is no need to double-check any list by checking more blogs. My guess they copy shit from each other just like affiliates do with acai landers.

Just go to the DMV site for any state you want to look up and see the requirements right from the source. All required paperwork is outlined right there. I just picked two states from your list on random, and both of them required proof of legal status as shown right on their websites.

Side note: I love all the free time I have on my hands right now :)

What's the point of arguing over something by referencing third parties as if it were an opinion when we are talking about easily verifiable facts.

Maybe a decade ago things were different. But now, the federal government pushes its own regulations down onto states.

Besides, even if you do have a driver's license, I doubt you can eligible for welfare if you don't have an SS number. And since SS office is part of the federal government, I doubt they would give out numbers without checking with the immigration.

We can argue over this all day, but there is really no way for illegals to get welfare.

The only possibility is by committing fraud. And as I replied above, that's a totally different problem.

I would even go as far as to say that committing fraud to get driver's license so one can commute to work and feed their family is better than committing fraud to rip of someone's credit card accounts. The latter being the most common reason why citizens commit identity fraud/theft.

So in the context of discussing the problem of fraud, if you insist on splitting it into citizens vs. illegals, then I'm pretty sure the illegals would win on the moral scale.
 
Welfare only hurts the poor by creating a dependency on aid. It's not to say that people don't need help now and then, but when a private group (family, church, charity) does it, there's incentive not only to help, but to get them on their feet permanently so they are able to work and not rely on the aid anymore.
 
I say implement a work program (maybe something similar to community service) and also implement phaseout stages and get some of these healthy and work able fuckers to take some responsibility.

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Temporary Assistance for Needy Families - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

TANF was created by the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act instituted under President Bill Clinton in 1996.

TANF sets forward the following work requirements necessary for benefits:

1. Recipients (with few exceptions) must work as soon as they are job ready or no later than two years after coming on assistance.

2. Single parents are required to participate in work activities for at least 30 hours per week. Two-parent families must participate in work activities 35 or 55 hours a week, depending upon circumstances.

3. Failure to participate in work requirements can result in a reduction or termination of benefits to the family.

4. States, in FY 2004, have to ensure that 50 percent of all families and 90 percent of two-parent families are participating in work activities. If a state reduces its caseload, without restricting eligibility, it can receive a caseload reduction credit. This credit reduces the minimum participation rates the state must achieve.


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So i was driving to the bank to cash a check, and the bank that i use is right by the welfare office. So im looking for a fucking spot and its 10:00AM and there no parking spaces.

So what do i do? I have to park on the other side the fucking street. Im walking a mile and i see over 100 people ouside some building. I look over and its the fucking welfare office. Who do i see there? People who look like they have more money then me. I see

-18 year old moms
-illegals
-Whores
-Scam artist

Just any scumbag you can think of. But i tried to ignore it rather then get pissed and argue with somebody. This lady pulls up like a bat out of hell and is driving a 2009 chevy blazer. She comes out with her weave, nails, 500$ outfit, high heels ect. And her 25 kids are in the car screaming, i mean just a bunch of out of control misfits who look like rag dolls.

I cash my check and im walking back, and there are more people in line. No joke it looked like a fucking mob. Each of these people were lazy fucks and i could tell just by the way they were. Screaming kids, smell of booze on them.

I should wiped a camera out and posted it on youtube. But besides the point i just made it made me mad. Here i am working hard to make it in IM and these scumbags are using our tax dollars and having babies.

Then i went to wal-mart because my mom asked me to get her a few things. And these people run over with me to help "stimulate the economy" as liberals like to say, and they are buying Sams cola, chips, candy to feed their overweight kids. Im like jesus that isnt going to help anything out. I started to get angry because these people are buying expesive shit. Bacon, turkey, oil to deep fry with. I mean i wouldnt buy that shit if i had money, but im like fuck me.

Last year a History teacher said the following when we argued over welfare in front of the class and i owned him but he used his bs save his ass.

"What do i do if im out of work and have no money? I guess i will have to come steal from you"

You see that, give me some god damn money or the stero gets it josh.

Then he has the nerve to say says it helps our economy, i say they all rush over to wal-mart that isnt going to help anybody out. He says that im a liar

"Josh your a liar, that is such a sterotypical thing to say that people on welfare shop only at wal-mart"

"Most people on welfare use there money to support small local businesses"

Before this post gets to long i just would like you to go to your welfare offices on the 3rd. That was the day i went, and whenever welfare checks come out just see how many people are in line. Hell make a youtube video of it and put a CPA offer in the sidebar. Make some money back from these losers.

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