WF is Going to the Dogs!
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The best time for WF was when rebills were at their climax. Everyone was ballin, so everyone was relaxed and sharing good info throughout the forum. It's not the same now since rebills aren't as strong as they used to be, so lots of members ended up being a lot more secretive about their campaigns and sources. Reduction in quality info being posted with an influx of people joining the aff space every year will give us what we see now. I don't really give a shit though.
WickedFire is a forum, a free forum. I come to WickedFire to relax, read STS and go back to work. It's pretty easy to ignore all the retarded xrumer posts so it's not that much of a problem. I also don't spend any time in the B/S/T; so I can't put in a complaint there though it sounds like a lot of you are complaining because of competition. WickedFire is a free market place with a ton of heavy paying buyers, that alone should be enough to no complain. As someone else mentioned, come up with a quality service and you'll get the buyers. I've seen selling threads as long as 10 pages long, they got that long for a reason.
WickedFire is a forum, a free forum. I come to WickedFire to relax, read STS and go back to work. It's pretty easy to ignore all the retarded xrumer posts so it's not that much of a problem. I also don't spend any time in the B/S/T; so I can't put in a complaint there though it sounds like a lot of you are complaining because of competition. WickedFire is a free market place with a ton of heavy paying buyers, that alone should be enough to no complain. As someone else mentioned, come up with a quality service and you'll get the buyers. I've seen selling threads as long as 10 pages long, they got that long for a reason.
I'm not making it about race, I'm making it about country. It's a fact that India's a poorer country, therefore, the people in it are less likely to have similar starting capital to people in the west, and are therefore less likely to be able to afford BST fees.
I obviously agree about the SEO skills having nothing to do with country of origin - the majority of the people I hire for SEO are from India.
100% agreed. All I'm saying, is in a country where the average salary is a few hundred dollars a month, people are unlikely to be able to afford BST fees.
I'll cast my lot with the paid forum group. Doesn't have to be much, $25/year up front will keep a lot of the crap out and boost the signal to noise ratio (hopefully). I don't really care about BST, I mostly read T&C for whatever little gems I can mine, I'd pay a nominal amount to retain access to that and break some balls/post music vids in STS threads on occasion.
I think that a marketplace for the premium section would definitely solve a lot of problems.
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To the OP:
Competition seems to hit you hard.
For BST:
Why not create 2 sections like some kind of trial section / established section? Would at least avoid all $5 services to spam the 'established' section and make browsing easier. How about putting up a forced review to certain members ? Not takling about mods here, but if the community votes like a handful of respected members who are willing to do this, would be a great solution. Somebody legit will provide a review copy for free without any problems / pay after completion is an option too.
Something similiar to 'verify your blog' for all services which are more expensive than X dollars / not an XRumer blast but real services.
To people fighting against a fee:
Sorry but if a service provider isn't able to spent let's say $25 / $50 for a permanent (I'd even go for periods like 3 months) for an advertising space like WickedFire he won't last any long and won't be missed.
Competition seems to hit you hard.
For BST:
Why not create 2 sections like some kind of trial section / established section? Would at least avoid all $5 services to spam the 'established' section and make browsing easier. How about putting up a forced review to certain members ? Not takling about mods here, but if the community votes like a handful of respected members who are willing to do this, would be a great solution. Somebody legit will provide a review copy for free without any problems / pay after completion is an option too.
Something similiar to 'verify your blog' for all services which are more expensive than X dollars / not an XRumer blast but real services.
To people fighting against a fee:
Sorry but if a service provider isn't able to spent let's say $25 / $50 for a permanent (I'd even go for periods like 3 months) for an advertising space like WickedFire he won't last any long and won't be missed.
Question: how does a newcomer build up a post count? It seems like people with less than a certain number of posts inspires a lot of anger here, but at the same time, most questions that can come up have already been answered. So where are you supposed to make that first 100-500 posts? Shooting the shit?
Old-style vBulletin communities are degrading, this is happening everywhere with the advent of social media. Too many retards coming on to the "old internet" without the skillset or interests of the "old internet" users.
As far as what to do about it, has anyone ever attempted a system that matches IM pros to noobs that need a helping hand with their first venture? The noob gets help making a site in exchange for sharing profits with the mentor, and the service that connects the two could take a cut too, supporting the whole venture. It could be launched by one of the pros here as a new-fangled social website/app/service, and get titled something catchy. Doing something like this and tying it back into the forums could get a boost in quality users, provide a means to find potential in new users and bring it out, and fulfill what this site should be all about- creating awesome internet marketers.
So basically an online IM business incubator. But I don't know, that might be retarded.
Old-style vBulletin communities are degrading, this is happening everywhere with the advent of social media. Too many retards coming on to the "old internet" without the skillset or interests of the "old internet" users.
As far as what to do about it, has anyone ever attempted a system that matches IM pros to noobs that need a helping hand with their first venture? The noob gets help making a site in exchange for sharing profits with the mentor, and the service that connects the two could take a cut too, supporting the whole venture. It could be launched by one of the pros here as a new-fangled social website/app/service, and get titled something catchy. Doing something like this and tying it back into the forums could get a boost in quality users, provide a means to find potential in new users and bring it out, and fulfill what this site should be all about- creating awesome internet marketers.
So basically an online IM business incubator. But I don't know, that might be retarded.
Dude seriously?
How to become a member of WF:
1) Read the fucking stickies
2) Start in the noob section cause you're a noob.
3) Ask intelligent questions with specific info about specific things that haven't been asked 100 times the same day.
4) ???????
5) Senior member
It doesn't mean much to me considering I'm a noob around these parts of the interweb, but, I would recommend a paid-only section. Require some sort of pre-requisite / approval process before someone can even be eligible for a paid account.
It will give noobs something to strive for (earning their stripes before they can get a paid account) and it will weed out those with deep pockets that would otherwise be shitty contributors because they'll have to qualify for the account in the first place.
It will give noobs something to strive for (earning their stripes before they can get a paid account) and it will weed out those with deep pockets that would otherwise be shitty contributors because they'll have to qualify for the account in the first place.
Making this post, you out yourself as someone who cycles through usernames to escape any type of scrutiny. You either sell shit for products, or you just can't afford enough Vaseline to handle your competition.
And in any case - to have such a low post count and still know so much about the community proves that you're a leach here - and YOU are the cancer.
Uh, is it really that difficult to figure out?
- Start threads asking intelligent questions
- Start a case study beneficial to the community
- Reply to threads with intelligent, thought out answers
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