What a sick fuck

[xmcp123]

I certainly don't think all religions are bad. I think any religion that holds Sharia law in such a high regard is bad. When was the last time a Christian leader said something 'sharia-ish' and wasn't condemned?

Apples to apples time: When Eric Rudolph bombed the olympics and a few abortion clinics, All Christian denominations (and Jews by the way) loudly condemned the action. When Osama 'bin fuckin men' Laden decided to ram 4 jets into US soil, where was the muslum outrage? Even the pope condemned Rudolph and anyone thinking of using violence to make a point about human rights. I don't recall any Imams on the television or in international news condeming the actions.

Torture techniques of a whole different world hardly compare to what was done to some 10 year old girl's privates in the time it took us to write our posts.

Female circumcision eh? Better go after africa too.
Anyways, the area I grew up in has a large concentration of jewish people and arabs (christian AND muslim). And you're a fucking idiot if you don't think the outrage was there.
Now let's take a look at the US. Where was the outrage for Darfur? Or let me guess, you didn't give a shit about that. Uganda/Rwanda GENOCIDE? Nope. I'll bet you didn't give a fuck about that either.
So even if they didn't show outrage(which many did), you're still guilty of the exact same thing.

Children are targets of Nigerian witch hunt | World news | The Observer

That's the problem with the "good" Muslims. They are too afraid to stand up against the extremist. This means that given a 10-15 years the whole religeon will be the extremist version.

I take it you're going to go "stand up" to Fred Phelps then? Now imagine he had a fuckload of followers. Unless you're loading your rifle to go charge his compound right now, you're a bit of a hypocrite. (It is a baptist church after all)

Ignorant against ragheads? Are you fucking kidding me. If I could personally kill each and every Muslim terrorist I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I won't hire one, I won't do business with one, and I'm certainly not going to care if I'm called Ignorant by hating one.

There used to be two tall buildings in NYC. There also used to be 500,000 mulsims alive. I for one am happy they are now dead. One less threat to worry about.

Honestly bb_wolfe, I thought you were much above this. You need to seperate "muslim terrorists" from "muslims" in your head. You can't lump people together like that. Since Timothy McVeigh was involved with the Oklahoma City bombing, should we kill all NRA members too? I mean, shit! They're armed and dangerous! That would be a lot less threats to worry about!

Children are targets of Nigerian witch hunt | World news | The Observer

Right, Right, Christians and the USA are bad. Muslims and the Middle East are just misunderstood.

You and your kind had better take a long hard look at this politically correct, hate the USA fade, before you wake up one day and have to swear your life to Allah or die!

Dude. Their big thing has never been "we want control of the US". It's been "get the fuck out of our country". I'm not justifying 9/11 or anything else like that, but do you have any idea how fucking ridiculous that sounds when you look at their actual motivation? Jesus.
And Christians are not bad. The USA is not bad. But they both have their own motivations, same as anyone else on the planet. And they've all fucked up A LOT, just like anyone else on the planet.


I'm amazed that people can bitch about muslims, and then profess themselves to be patriots. We are a mutt country. There is no "american" genetic trait or heritage or anything like that. I cannot understand how a group in a country of mutts can be branded as "outsiders".
The entire foundation of America and what made it what it is today is outsiders coming from different countries here. That's all we are. And I'm sorry, but if you hate that concept and hate outsiders, then you hate america.
In which case, fuck you.

 

[popeye]

Yet another wonderful story brought to you by the religion of pieces.

Can't wait until Sharia law makes all our lives better in the UK

BBC NEWS | UK | Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

The USA will welcome all of those in the UK that are soon to be persicuted in the name of Allah. I can promise Sharia law will never happen here (at least where I live)

 

[LotsOfZeros]

should we kill all NRA members too? I mean, shit! They're armed and dangerous! That would be a lot less threats to worry about!

Please don't do that. I'm counting on all their guns to protect me when Obama gives William Ayers & Co the keys to the 'red button room'.

 

[bb_wolfe]

Honestly bb_wolfe, I thought you were much above this. You need to seperate "muslim terrorists" from "muslims" in your head. You can't lump people together like that. Since Timothy McVeigh was involved with the Oklahoma City bombing, should we kill all NRA members too? I mean, shit! They're armed and dangerous! That would be a lot less threats to worry about!

NRA armed? check.
NRA dangerous? check your fucking head. The presence of a weapon does not mean the presence of danger. Add to that the NRA is the biggest financial supporter and provider of hunting safety programs in the nation.

My point was about extremist Muslims who live according to Sharia Law.

And about Darfur, don't think that because I didn't mention it I don't feel a great deal of rage about the situation. I do wish more could be done and I wish the US were the ones doing it.

Just because some locals in Michigan (which let's be honest, is about as culturally irrelevant as my own state.) condemned the 9/11 attacks, it doesn't mean that the Muslims 'that matter' (READ: Muslim world leaders) spoke out against it.

I lost 3 friends to 9/11, and 2 to the war in Iraq (04/06). I'm certainly not going to apologize for my view on the situation.

 

[xmcp123]

NRA armed? check.
NRA dangerous? check your fucking head. The presence if a weapon does not mean the presence of danger. Add to that the NRA is the biggest financial supporter and provider of hunting safety programs in the nation.

My point was about extremist Muslims who live according to Sharia Law.

And about Darfur, don't think that because I didn't mention it I don't feel a great deal of rage about the situation. I do wish more could be done and I wish the US were the ones doing it.

Just because some locals in Michigan (which let's be honest, is about as culturally irrelevant as my own state.) condemned the 9/11 attacks, it doesn't mean that the Muslims 'that matter' (READ: Muslim world leaders) spoke out against it.

I lost 3 friends to 9/11, and 2 to the war in Iraq (04/06). I'm certainly not going to apologize for my view on the situation.

So if I'm supposed to "read" that as Muslim World Leaders, perhaps you should resist your urge to say the holocaust would've been positive had it happened to muslims, or that you want them all dead.
Make up your mind. Is it muslim world leaders, or muslims?

 

[mediastar100]

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[bluebuddha]

I'm an atheist but Islam is probably my favorite religion next to Buddhism. It's pretty much the same religion as Christianity, but makes more sense intellectually. Christianity 2.0, you can say.

I don't view religions as being 'completely stupid' but I do feel that our beliefs evolve over time. Trying to teach and follow a belief system that was created a thousand years ago in this day and age, is, without a doubt, idiotic. But having your own belief system based off of things you've learned or admire from previous religions, is probably more positive than not.

Extremists exists in every religion, and every other part of life. People want their opinions heard and followed by others, whether it's that Judaism is better than Hinduism or Wii is better than PS3. Extremists on either side of these arguments will be irrational and form stupid arguments against each other.

Terrorism has always existed. Ghengis Khan used to tie people up to trees and cut off their legs to make them scream, to terrorize the villages nearby. It's not new, and those who follow the opinions their (equally ignorant) peers and media purport are being childish and silly. And unfortunately they're a majority - a fact the minority needs to accept and live with. George Bush being our president is a perfect example of something we just need to suck up and move on with. Cannabis being illegal is another great example.

You're gonna put yourself in deep shit one day if you don't learn how to think critically and form opinions quickly just based off a few headlines you've read on the Internet. Nearly every single Ismalic-horror story involves the decision of a single or handful of dictators ruling over a small tribe. This is not a religious issue, but a political one.

The majority of Americans still believe that women belong in the kitchen, or that being gay is evil, and whether these people are athiests or jews, if they had any sort of power, that's the mentality they would impose on others, and punish for not following orders.

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Just the first paragraph states enough about extremism that a single-brain-celled mammal (like some people who replied to this thread) can understand.

Christian terrorism is religious terrorism by those whose motivations are rooted in their interpretations of Christianity. From the viewpoint of the terrorist, Christian scripture and theology provide justification for violent political activities.

I like how some of the links people use to backup their claims are setup and run by non-Islamic terrorist organizations. It's like backing up a silly claim like black people are stupid and lazy, from the KKK's web page.

Grow up.

 

[PinstripeRambo]

I'm amazed that people can bitch about muslims, and then profess themselves to be patriots. We are a mutt country. There is no "american" genetic trait or heritage or anything like that. I cannot understand how a group in a country of mutts can be branded as "outsiders".
The entire foundation of America and what made it what it is today is outsiders coming from different countries here. That's all we are. And I'm sorry, but if you hate that concept and hate outsiders, then you hate america.
In which case, fuck you.

Interesting, so because the US is a multicultural country, its people should not speak out against (let alone fight) a violent ideology that threatens its security? And that's just basic survival, what about Islam's very clear opposition to freedom, women's rights, and all the other things part of US culture (yes, it does have a culture of it's own). There isn't even a concept of "outsiders" with Islam, there are thousands of imams across the US preaching hate and opposition against the country they live in. The fight against those is definitely patriotic.

 

[xmcp123]

Interesting, so because the US is a multicultural country, its people should not speak out against (let alone fight) a violent ideology that threatens its security? And that's just basic survival, what about Islam's very clear opposition to freedom, women's rights, and all the other things part of US culture (yes, it does have a culture of it's own). There isn't even a concept of "outsiders" with Islam, there are thousands of imams across the US preaching hate and opposition against the country they live in. The fight against those is definitely patriotic.

...it's not a violent ideology. I'd like to see a list of these thousands of imams btw, because quite frankly I think you're full of shit.

 

[bb_wolfe]

...it's not a violent ideology. I'd like to see a list of these thousands of imams btw, because quite frankly I think you're full of shit.

Nope, not violent at all...

 

[xmcp123]

Nope, not violent at all...

I was talking about the claims that there were thousands of imams peraching hatred against the US from within our borders. It's utter bullshit.

And once again wolfe, you can't blame the entire religion for the acts of a few.
I've yet to hear a response, so I'll make this question super-de-duper clear.
Who did you want to kill, the muslim population or their leaders?

Your answer seems to change based on convenience. The muslims that do stand up against such things you say don't matter, then you blame it on the leaders. Then just a little later you seem to be blaming the entire religion again?

 

[Demon]

Nope, not violent at all...

Dude, WHAT THE FUCK does that have to do with Islam? If I show you images of the Klu Klux Klan hanging a black man, and then use that as a reason for claiming Christianity is a violent religion, would that make any sense to you?

Like many other Americans, I am quite sure you are seriously confusing acts of terrorism and violence carried out by fools with a warped cultural upbringing, with the religion of Islam which is based on the Koran and the teachings of the prophet Muhammad, which I can 100% guarantee you, that if you read, you will find no mention of violence and torture against innocent people, with the prophet himself being a man so peaceful, he wouldn't even lift a finger against those people that literally spat at him.

 

[Demon]

To help illustrate my point better, just take a look and compare Chinese Muslims, Arab Muslims and Iranian Muslims, and see just how much the culture of these peoples makes their values and beliefs so different, while they all still call themselves muslims. In Iran if you circumsice a woman you'll get thrown in prison (before most probably getting beaten the shit out of you for being a twisted fuck).

The Arab tradition of cutting the hand is exactly that, a tradition, and one only practiced by the Arabs. They also used to bury their daughters alive. Islam put an end to that.

 

[bb_wolfe]

I was talking about the claims that there were thousands of imams peraching hatred against the US from within our borders. It's utter bullshit.

And once again wolfe, you can't blame the entire religion for the acts of a few.
I've yet to hear a response, so I'll make this question super-de-duper clear.
Who did you want to kill, the muslim population or their leaders?

Your answer seems to change based on convenience. The Muslims that do stand up against such things you say don't matter, then you blame it on the leaders. Then just a little later you seem to be blaming the entire religion again?

Who says you can't blame the entire group based on the acts of a few? The Muslim world certainly does when it comes to the West. You knew that, right? They hate the fact that we're in their holy land, a decision our government, not us, made. They hate us as a whole, we extend the same courtesy. "Down with America" doesn't apply to the Senate, SCOTUS, or any other gov't entity. It applies to you and to me, and to your kids and mine.

My answer to your question is irrelevant; you'll continue to be a Muslim sympathizer and I'll continue to despise them and one day, we'll both read the same CNN headline: "United States declares war on Iran/Saudi Arabia/Turkey/Syria" based on the actions of a few rotten extremists who weren't reigned in by their fellow believers.

If I knew that someone here was planning on bombing planned parenthood, no matter how much I despise the act of abortion, I'd do everything I could do stop it. There are much better ways to get your point across than killing innocents. When the muslim community fails to respond to their obligation of keeping faithful to the Koran's peaceful teachings you'll find, as we currently see, that the rest of the world hates them and doesn't react well to the violence.

The main point of the entire thread was to show how sick and fucked up Sharia Law and those systems like it really are. Sorry if I took the point astray.

 

[powell1]

...Islam which is based on the Koran and the teachings of the prophet Muhammad, which I can 100% guarantee you, that if you read, you will find no mention of violence and torture against innocent people...

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Verses of Violence

 

[bb_wolfe]

To help illustrate my point better, just take a look and compare Chinese Muslims, Arab Muslims and Iranian Muslims, and see just how much the culture of these peoples makes their values and beliefs so different, while they all still call themselves muslims. In Iran if you circumsice a woman you'll get thrown in prison (before most probably getting beaten the shit out of you for being a twisted fuck).

The Arab tradition of cutting the hand is exactly that, a tradition, and one only practiced by the Arabs. They also used to bury their daughters alive. Islam put an end to that.

Dude, I'm not saying any of that is right, I'm just saying it exists. And it exists on a lot larger level than you give it credit for.

 

[xmcp123]

Who says you can't blame the entire group based on the acts of a few? The Muslim world certainly does when it comes to the West. You knew that, right? They hate the fact that we're in their holy land, a decision our government, not us, made. They hate us as a whole, we extend the same courtesy. "Down with America" doesn't apply to the Senate, SCOTUS, or any other gov't entity. It applies to you and to me, and to your kids and mine.

My answer to your question is irrelevant; you'll continue to be a Muslim sympathizer and I'll continue to despise them and one day, we'll both read the same CNN headline: "United States declares war on Iran/Saudi Arabia/Turkey/Syria" based on the actions of a few rotten extremists who weren't reigned in by their fellow believers.

If I knew that someone here was planning on bombing planned parenthood, no matter how much I despise the act of abortion, I'd do everything I could do stop it. There are much better ways to get your point across than killing innocents. When the muslim community fails to respond to their obligation of keeping faithful to the Koran's peaceful teachings you'll find, as we currently see, that the rest of the world hates them and doesn't react well to the violence.

The main point of the entire thread was to show how sick and fucked up Sharia Law and those systems like it really are. Sorry if I took the point astray.

Are you really justifying your own outlook by equating it to how the outlook of the people you hate...?

 

[Demon]

Who says you can't blame the entire group based on the acts of a few? The Muslim world certainly does when it comes to the West. You knew that, right? They hate the fact that we're in their holy land, a decision our government, not us, made. They hate us as a whole, we extend the same courtesy. "Down with America" doesn't apply to the Senate, SCOTUS, or any other gov't entity. It applies to you and to me, and to your kids and mine.

My answer to your question is irrelevant; you'll continue to be a Muslim sympathizer and I'll continue to despise them and one day, we'll both read the same CNN headline: "United States declares war on Iran/Saudi Arabia/Turkey/Syria" based on the actions of a few rotten extremists who weren't reigned in by their fellow believers.

If I knew that someone here was planning on bombing planned parenthood, no matter how much I despise the act of abortion, I'd do everything I could do stop it. There are much better ways to get your point across than killing innocents. When the muslim community fails to respond to their obligation of keeping faithful to the Koran's peaceful teachings you'll find, as we currently see, that the rest of the world hates them and doesn't react well to the violence.

The main point of the entire thread was to show how sick and fucked up Sharia Law and those systems like it really are. Sorry if I took the point astray.

The 'Muslim world' and the 'muslim community' doesn't need to do shit to prove they aren't on the side of a bunch of murderers. Believe me, they are as perplexed as to who the fuck these people are as you are. Osama bin laden? Fuck, he's a taliban: Muslims all over the world HATE the taliban. And you know what's even more funny? Your government is the reason the taliban exists, hell, your government is behind the creation of the fucking taliban and the wahabi faith, which has caused more problems for muslims than you can even imagine.

What pisses me off the most though is how you link the religion itself with all this bullshit. How you are so quick to condemn the religion which has over ONE BILLION followers worldwide, all coz a bunch of lunatics blew up 3000 people in America. It's tragic, no doubt, but how can you expect sympathy and condemnation from the muslims against the terrorists when:

1) Most muslims have no idea who the fuck these terrorists are or what religion they're following, because it sure isn't the Islam they know of.

2) They've got more important things to worry about, like practicing their religion, going to work, providing for their families, and oh yeah, for those living in conflict zones, not getting BLOWN TO SHIT by warplanes and soldiers sent by the *cough* oil seekers, oh I mean liberators.

bb_wolfe, if you knew a damn thing about the real Islam, and if you had the mental capacity to not be an ignorant, judgemental cunt and throw in the religion itself with the people who claim to follow it, we wouldn't here have to hear your half witted ramblings about Islam.

 

[bb_wolfe]

The 'Muslim world' and the 'muslim community' doesn't need to do shit to prove they aren't on the side of a bunch of murderers. Believe me, they are as perplexed as to who the fuck these people are as you are. Osama bin laden? Fuck, he's a taliban: Muslims all over the world HATE the taliban. And you know what's even more funny? Your government is the reason the taliban exists, hell, your government is behind the creation of the fucking taliban and the wahabi faith, which has caused more problems for muslims than you can even imagine.

What pisses me off the most though is how you link the religion itself with all this bullshit. How you are so quick to condemn the religion which has over ONE BILLION followers worldwide, all coz a bunch of lunatics blew up 3000 people in America. It's tragic, no doubt, but how can you expect sympathy and condemnation from the muslims against the terrorists when:

1) Most muslims have no idea who the fuck these terrorists are or what religion they're following, because it sure isn't the Islam they know of.

2) They've got more important things to worry about, like practicing their religion, going to work, providing for their families, and oh yeah, for those living in conflict zones, not getting BLOWN TO SHIT by warplanes and soldiers sent by the *cough* oil seekers, oh I mean liberators.

bb_wolfe, if you knew a damn thing about the real Islam, and if you had the mental capacity to not be an ignorant, judgemental cunt and throw in the religion itself with the people who claim to follow it, we wouldn't here have to hear your half witted ramblings about Islam.

Well I guess that changes everything...

 

[popeye]

The 'Muslim world' and the 'muslim community' doesn't need to do shit to prove they aren't on the side of a bunch of murderers. Believe me, they are as perplexed as to who the fuck these people are as you are. Osama bin laden? Fuck, he's a taliban: Muslims all over the world HATE the taliban. And you know what's even more funny? Your government is the reason the taliban exists, hell, your government is behind the creation of the fucking taliban and the wahabi faith, which has caused more problems for muslims than you can even imagine.

What pisses me off the most though is how you link the religion itself with all this bullshit. How you are so quick to condemn the religion which has over ONE BILLION followers worldwide, all coz a bunch of lunatics blew up 3000 people in America. It's tragic, no doubt, but how can you expect sympathy and condemnation from the muslims against the terrorists when:

1) Most muslims have no idea who the fuck these terrorists are or what religion they're following, because it sure isn't the Islam they know of.

2) They've got more important things to worry about, like practicing their religion, going to work, providing for their families, and oh yeah, for those living in conflict zones, not getting BLOWN TO SHIT by warplanes and soldiers sent by the *cough* oil seekers, oh I mean liberators.

bb_wolfe, if you knew a damn thing about the real Islam, and if you had the mental capacity to not be an ignorant, judgemental cunt and throw in the religion itself with the people who claim to follow it, we wouldn't here have to hear your half witted ramblings about Islam.

If it wasn't for the CIA helping the Taliban along, Afganistan and possibly more of the Middle East would be speaking Russian.

At the time the Soviet Union was the most dangerous threat to our country. So what if we helped create the Taliban. How does it go " The enemy of my enemy is my friend"?

The Taliban was necessary at the time to stop further expansion of the USSR. Hasn't anyone ever had a dog that they nutured, feed and took care of, only to have the dog bite you later on. Same thing here the dog needs to be put to sleep.