Attack On Military Base In Texas By Multiple Gunmen - 7 Dead, 20 Injured

10:1 odds we don't know the full story yet.

This is some crazy shit - heard about it on my long drive back home tonight and couldn't wait to get to a TV.
 


ROP, just like I called. Here's what the shooter wrote:

There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier.

To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers.

If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan.

They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam.

So the scholars main point is that "IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE" and Allah knows best.
 
Man..this is totally mind wipe time..How the hell has he been dead damn near all day then suddenly he's alive? What's up with the armed soldiers pointing in the air at different targets if it is one guy? Lies. Death. Cover ups. misdirections whatever

This sucks totally no matter how you look at it. Condolences to the families of the ones who lost their lives.
 
Fucking bullshit, it's an "elite" aka illuminati plot, keep watching, more rights to be taken away from Americans and the world alike... this is sticks79 reporting for WickedFire news.
 
Fucking bullshit, it's an "elite" aka illuminati plot, keep watching, more rights to be taken away from Americans and the world alike... this is sticks79 reporting for WickedFire news.

This is something I thought as well, more crazy tragedies & fear-mongering to further the agenda, keep everyone afraid and fighting/reminded of the invisible boogey terrorist war. His own words or not, you guys of all people know how easy it is to influence something online.

I think the whole story is fukt so far, condolences to the families.
 
Us marketers are into psychology for obvious reasons, but I mean people who become shrinks.
 
hey this is terrible news. It's bad enough when they get killed or injured on active duty but to go like this is really awful. Thoughts and prayers to the families of the dead and injured.

:crap:
 
Fucking bullshit, it's an "elite" aka illuminati plot, keep watching, more rights to be taken away from Americans and the world alike... this is sticks79 reporting for WickedFire news.

^This and for the others that believe in the modern day Illuminati..... :moon:

**stolen from some dude named ampersand** I'm too lazy to use my own words....

"
The Illuminati is like God. People have a basic need to believe that all things happen for a reason. Our understanding of the world is based on identifying patterns of cause and effect. We have a fundamental problem with randomness and take comfort for any explanation that means the world is not random.

But think about it. Think about what you know about people and especially large organizations. How likely is it that they are so competent they can not only run the world, but do it in complete secrecy? All the investigative journalists, the military, the intelligence services, interpol, the police etc, would either have to be in on it (impossible, it would have leaked) or be totally unaware of it. And yet some spotty anonymous teenager in an internet forum knows all about it? Negative.

Someone once said extraordinary claims need extraordinary levels of proof. This is an extraordinary claim with anonymous anecdotes and laughable circumstantial evidence as proof. It's not enough."

All the Illuminati is now is pop culture, it's not a real group (at least with power).

Illuminati in Pop Culture <---- I bet you came across Illuminati first from something in that list. Or someone else saw something on that list and then posted some bullshit hoax conspiracy crap on youtube that you watched (and unquestionably believed).

It's really not wise to get sucked into the mindset of a conspiracy theorist. I just don't know how to get it across to you guys. (I know you think I'm the idiot and I'm the one being so blind to the truth)

Here's my advice, quit using conspiracy theories to explain everything and start using the complete opposite.... What Noam Chomsky calls institutional analysis.

(wikipedia)
Institutional analysis is focused on the systematic study of people's collective behavior in institutions, its ability to explain major political, social, or historical events is sometimes contrasted with the use of conspiracy theory to explain such events, since the latter focuses on explaining such events by a secret, and often deceptive, plot by a covert coalition of small numbers of powerful or influential individuals rather than by the systematic, regular, publicly documented behavior (such as what hellblazer found) of the institutions.

Do some REAL research into the Illuminati, stay away from David Icke or anyone else like him.

(The real Illuminati .....circa 1700s.... weren't even a bad bunch......freethinkers, progressives....enlightenment-era thinkers.)

Sorry this is so long, I just think this kinda belief is so ignorant and dangerous.

The TRUTH is that religious extremists are out there and they're NUTS. That's what the fuck we are fighting over there in Afghanistan and Iraq (and definitely here on our own soil, like Fort Hood). If you don't believe people like this exist out there in the real world and can act on their own then you're just plain wrong.

You gotta realize who our real enemy is. Not the Illuminati.
 
^This and for the others that believe in the modern day Illuminati..... :moon:



^ Guess you're not a fan of:
Aaron Russo
Alex Jones
Anyone that exposes top level powers?

And you haven't watched or kept an open mind while watching
EndGame Watch >>
FreedomToFascism Watch >>

See nothing wrong with:
Bilderberg
The Federal Reserve
Advanced RFID plans

It's one thing to say 'I can't keep an open enough mind to take into consideration the possibility that there is a top tier of humans running all this shit we call life/money/stat, that has it's own agenda', but you can't say 'anyone that believes in conspiracy theories or alternative views must be nuts and dangerous'.

Fine - some people want to believe that we live in a peachy keen society and our gov's have our best interest in mind 247, while others believe there must be a method to the madness, a structure to the controled chaos, a... deeper reason to everything, nothing wrong with that. I think it's equally dangerous then to think things like this are absolutely impossible, making you more vulnerable sheeple imo.

Why is it so hard to believe there might indeed be a bigger agenda behind this, or most other crap you 'are shown' in the media?
 
Keep an open mind.....

Your mind can be so open to the point where it can no longer tell fact from fiction.

You reach the point where you've totally removed the crap filter from your brain while allowing anything to spill in. (When was the last time you read or saw one of these conspiracies and said "No, I gotta do some more digging into this, this seems fishy...."?)

Yeah, that list you created pretty much sums up all the most popular conspiracies floating around and I don't believe 98% of it.

I even went to one of Aaron Russo's films (Freedom to Fascism) when it was at a local theater. bleh.
 
I mean how do you explain this guy's writings?

Is it more likely that he actually thought these things and then wrote them down months before he turned really pyscho? (Thus proving he was mentally on the edge prior to this event)

Or... is it more likely that the Illuminati got to him and somehow manipulated him into performing these acts and then subsequently erased his brain of any recollection of such manipulation? (And they also faked the entry on scribd.... which could be done, but they also faked the "scholar" that influenced him, oh wait then they also faked the entire "paradise for martydom" thing too, I guess they also had to fake the entire Islamic religion (which predates the existense of the Illuminati istelf) damn these guys must have been good....)

Which is more likely?

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor which states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible. Basically, K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
 
This thread has devolved into a tin foil hat forum. Concur re UnripeArbiter's mention of Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is most often the right one.

Fuck this guy. That is all.
 
This thread has devolved into a tin foil hat forum. Concur re UnripeArbiter's mention of Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is most often the right one.

Fuck this guy. That is all.

Thank goodness!

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