50% - where did you get this number? (awaiting a Moxie link)
Sensationalism only lasts so long before people become bored and disenchanted. Memory of the malicious intent however, lasts long into the next election cycle (thankfully).
Attack On Military Base In Texas By Multiple Gunmen - 7 Dead, 20 Injured
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50% - where did you get this number? (awaiting a Moxie link)
Sensationalism only lasts so long before people become bored and disenchanted. Memory of the malicious intent however, lasts long into the next election cycle (thankfully).
Totally agree 100% , they need to make his life as painful as possible every day for the next , oh 40 or so yrs.
Also his coworkers said he was always talking about how they need to end this war against muslims and how he did not want to be deployed. Part of the issue here is that the chain of command didn't take his words seriously. He was never deployed anywhere it was simply not a case of PTSD.
I just think it's bullshit the fact he goes into a processing center and shoots it up. But I do like the fact that he isn't dead, GAME ON
Well I could care less what the majority of people online state. The guy was a Muslim, and he was being deployed to go possibly kill other muslims. So maybe in his mind it was a better sin to kill non muslims, who the hell knows.
Still to myself and other active and inactive vets on this board it crawls all over us when some state that maybe someone has good reason to kill innocent people, or well he may have been a muslim but that doesnt mean blah blah. The fact is that he was unhappy having to be deployed, a vocal opponent of the war and was a devout muslim. The fact still is that what he did was a terrorist act. He killed innocent people in a plot to cause terror and havoc on others. The fact remains that he was a devoted muslim and he did not want to go overseas to kill another muslim. Which according to the muslim code you shouldnt aid in helping christians harm muslims.
Still to myself and other active and inactive vets on this board it crawls all over us when some state that maybe someone has good reason to kill innocent people, or well he may have been a muslim but that doesnt mean blah blah. The fact is that he was unhappy having to be deployed, a vocal opponent of the war and was a devout muslim. The fact still is that what he did was a terrorist act. He killed innocent people in a plot to cause terror and havoc on others. The fact remains that he was a devoted muslim and he did not want to go overseas to kill another muslim. Which according to the muslim code you shouldnt aid in helping christians harm muslims.
Yeah, right. Expect an 'insanity' defense and nobody to touch him in prison. Where do you think the majority of people are converted to Islam? In the penitentiaries. He'll be welcomed and protected as a hero, and if he perchance gets the death penalty, it'll be a gentle descent into sleep via a syringe.
True you do have a good point, but you have to remember also that during the trial and whole legal process he will be in a military prison and they could care less if your muslim or not. But then again they may have him in a confined area so as nothing does happen since it will be a high profile case and they do not want the defense to have evidence of him being mistreated.
It sounds as of now that he will be paralyzed from the neck down. He is in a coma but they do not know if he will come out of it and be able to come off the breathing machine.
A brave female officer engaged and stopped the shooter using guerilla tactics she learned after the Columbine mass murder:
washingtonpost.com
So, if a woman can do that, then how come there can't be women on the internetz?
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So, if a woman can do that, then how come there can't be women on the internetz?
What I am most interested in are 1) his motives and 2) his mental health at the time of the offense. Unfortunately, #2 may never be ascertained because as a mental health professional he knows all the tests and questions he'll be asked on a perfunctory basis.
This, also, could preclude him from the insanity defense since it would be impossible for a forensic psychologist to ascertain the truthfulness of any responses given that he knows the legal definitions and parameters of sanity. (I am married to a forensic psychologist - this has actually been a topic of discussion before).
It's all conjecture at this point- but I agree with you- if they can legally plead insanity, they will. I can't imagine he'd choose a JAG though.
I am not anti-death penalty but, honestly, I think living for another 40-50 years in paralysis and peeing in a bag is far worse than being put to death. Just one woman's opinion.
Fuck you you fucking fuck. Don't put words in other peoples mouths.
There are some people on here that are part of the group that you are badmouthing - for example... ME.
I helped lower our flag to half mast today and then later stood in formation for a moment of silence at 1334 to show respect for the dead. How the FUCK do you DARE to trivialize their lives? Regardless of your personal beliefs or views on the military those were 13 American men and women. Think hard for a moment, have anyone in your family that is a member of ANY organization that gets ANY funding from taxes? If you do and someone slaughtered them in cold blood you'd be just as pissed as me if someone came along spewing bullshit about how we were better off without them. Oh, and by the way - your tax dollars are about to pay the life insurance payments to the families of the victims - that's small thanks to them having lost a family member but I personally am happy to know that non contributing FUCKS like yourself are part of the process to help these families, even when you can't see the light of day because your head is so far up your ass.
In closing.
FUCK OFF, NEG REP, BAN PLZ etc
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the fallen\injured.
Why don't you morons get the fact they hate you because you are a beer drinking, pork eating atheist who watches gay porn all day?
The freedoms that you take for granted, (if you are even an American which I doubt based on your posts) are the reasons they hate you and want to kill you. And it is the soldiers on the front lines that are protecting those freedoms for you; so that you can continue to dye your hair purple and paint your nails black, and wear short skirts with ripped holes in your stockings.
If your homo ass lived in the middle east you would be publicly hung with barbed-wire.
Why the fuck don't these people get it. Sheesh.
Nah. It's not one of the passionate debates that ends up making me want to twist someones ball sack over.
I only have a couple of those and I really try not to go there because of that.
The media has always been pretty disgusting, but some of the stuff I've been seeing really takes the cake.
Time magazine sympathizes with the killers tough life:
They make me sick.
Time magazine sympathizes with the killers tough life:
And Newsweek blames it on the military:
This is just some of the crazy traitorous stuff I've been seeing. The media is populated by people who will not admit there is a problem with fanatical Muslims, and instead are saying a guy who was never in combat had PTSD, or they're saying his religion had nothing to do with it, or they're saying he was a random nut who just snapped - even though the guy gave away his belongings, closed down his apartment, acquired the handguns, shouted "Allahu Akhbar" during the murder spree, and glorified Islamic suicide bombers in his writings.
They make me sick.
Of course they do - the media can't be making their Messiah look bad now can they?
The article's title alone blatantly proves the double-standard.
Nah. It's not one of the passionate debates that ends up making me want to twist someones ball sack over.
You kidding me? You have more than you think.
There's probably no shortage of WF members who pay extra for that sort of treatment!
ZWERDLING: Earlier today, I spoke to a psychiatrist who worked very closely with Hasan and knows him very well. And he said, you know, from the beginning -and Hasan was there for four years - the medical staff was very worried about this guy. He said the first thing is he's cold, unfriendly.
At least that's who he came off. He did not do a good job as a psychiatrist in training, was repeatedly warned, you better shape up, or, you know, you're going to be in trouble. Did badly in his classes, seemed disinterested. But second of all - and this is, perhaps, you know, more relevant. The psychiatrist says that he was very proud and upfront about being Muslim.
And psychiatrist hastened to say, and nobody minded that. But he seemed almost belligerent about being Muslim, and he gave a lecture one day that really freaked a lot of doctors out.
They have grand rounds, right? They, you know, dozens of medical staff come into an auditorium, and somebody stands at the podium at the front and gives a lecture about some academic issue, you know, what drugs to prescribe for what condition. But instead of that, he - Hasan apparently gave a long lecture on the Koran and talked about how if you don't believe, you are condemned to hell. Your head is cut off. You're set on fire. Burning oil is burned down your throat.
And I said to the psychiatrist, but this cold be a very interesting informational session, right? Where he's educating everybody about the Koran. He said but what disturbed everybody was that Hasan seemed to believe these things.
And actually, a Muslim in the audience, a psychiatrist, raised his hand and said, excuse me. But I'm a Muslim and I do not believe these things in the Koran, and then I don't believe what you say the Koran says. And then Hasan didn't say, well, I'm just giving you one point of view. He basically just stared the guy down.
ZWERDLING: I want to add something else about Hasan at Walter Reed. The psychiatrist I talked to today said that he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway, saying: Do you think he's a terrorist, or is he just weird?
And now, apparently, Walter Reed is in a lockdown mode where they've been instructed - all the staff has been instructed: Do not talk to anybody about this investigation, except military people. Do not talk to the FBI, because they're afraid, potentially, what if people decide investigating this that people missed potential warning signs about the guy?
from NPR
At least that's who he came off. He did not do a good job as a psychiatrist in training, was repeatedly warned, you better shape up, or, you know, you're going to be in trouble. Did badly in his classes, seemed disinterested. But second of all - and this is, perhaps, you know, more relevant. The psychiatrist says that he was very proud and upfront about being Muslim.
And psychiatrist hastened to say, and nobody minded that. But he seemed almost belligerent about being Muslim, and he gave a lecture one day that really freaked a lot of doctors out.
They have grand rounds, right? They, you know, dozens of medical staff come into an auditorium, and somebody stands at the podium at the front and gives a lecture about some academic issue, you know, what drugs to prescribe for what condition. But instead of that, he - Hasan apparently gave a long lecture on the Koran and talked about how if you don't believe, you are condemned to hell. Your head is cut off. You're set on fire. Burning oil is burned down your throat.
And I said to the psychiatrist, but this cold be a very interesting informational session, right? Where he's educating everybody about the Koran. He said but what disturbed everybody was that Hasan seemed to believe these things.
And actually, a Muslim in the audience, a psychiatrist, raised his hand and said, excuse me. But I'm a Muslim and I do not believe these things in the Koran, and then I don't believe what you say the Koran says. And then Hasan didn't say, well, I'm just giving you one point of view. He basically just stared the guy down.
ZWERDLING: I want to add something else about Hasan at Walter Reed. The psychiatrist I talked to today said that he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway, saying: Do you think he's a terrorist, or is he just weird?
And now, apparently, Walter Reed is in a lockdown mode where they've been instructed - all the staff has been instructed: Do not talk to anybody about this investigation, except military people. Do not talk to the FBI, because they're afraid, potentially, what if people decide investigating this that people missed potential warning signs about the guy?
from NPR
As someone who comes from an Army Family (albeit India, fighting the very same terrorists on Pakistan border) I am disgusted and pissed at what you wrote. But I don't have time to rebuke your post cos you are just a waste of human existence.
Talking of tax dollars, and judging from your IQ and quality of post, /me thinks it is you who mooches on food stamps off others' tax dollars rather than the other way round.
You are either a 12 year old kid who is dumb and wants to show off his e-penis or some jihadi sitting in a cave in pakistan (maybe learn engrish, idiot).
Anyway banning you right now doesn't really help as you deserve to read all the ass raping you will be getting for your sick remarks. But I will be watching you closely buddy.
Exactly! That's why army fucks with your kind of terrorists in the first place cos they fuck with our affairs. Hit us and we hit you back and rape you in the ass.
It's so ironic that we are battling extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan and we had an identified extremist on our own team.
There should be some kind of protocol to get rid of him before this happened. (kick him out of the army and keep him off the base)
I don't know how the Army could have done it without seeming discriminatory, however, it's alot worse to keep someone who so closely fits the profile of the enemy in the ranks.
I would think after his speech at the podium... that would have been enough to get him out of there. I mean he stood up there and said things like "you are condemned to hell. Your head is cut off. You're set on fire. Burning oil is burned down your throat. " Isn't that enough? Wild stuff.
Your sick, -rep.
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I would have expected to read that crap on Al-Jazeera or maybe even BBC, but am outraged that those are the headlines of top media outlets in the US after this attack. The authors of those articles should be tried for treason.
I can imagine what would have been their headlines if the killing was done by a Southern Baptist Christian or Orthodox Jew against Muslim US soldiers. "Extreme Religious Beliefs Turn Violent against Muslims at US Army Base" or "Fanatical Ideologies Explode at Ford Hood"
These idiots are fueling the fire and are completely clueless.
This ignited me more the the remarks made by the degenerate in this thread because his vile was easily put down by other members while these articles have already been read by thousands if not hundreds of thousands of easily impressionable simple minded Americans and soon to be jihad supporters.