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And now this: Shooting at military recruiting center; 1 dead, 1 wounded; suspect is anti-military Muslim convert

By Michelle Malkin • June 1, 2009 02:02 PM
Scroll down for updates…meet the Muslim domestic terrorist suspect, Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad…Where is Obama’s denunciation of the attack?

Holy crap: A shooting at an Arkansas Army recruiting center has left one recruiter dead and one wounded. Pray for the families, please:
One Army recruiter was killed Monday and a second was wounded in a shooting at a recruiting office, and a suspect was arrested, police said.
Police Lt. Terry Hastings said the recruiter was shot when a man in a black SUV opened fire on the office in west Little Rock at about 10:30 a.m.
The vehicle was stopped on Interstate 630 a short time later and a suspect was taken into custody. Hastings said the suspect pulled over and surrendered without incident.
Police said they found an assault rifle in the vehicle.
Hastings said he did not know whether the recruiting office was specifically targeted or was randomly chosen.
I wonder if the Justice Department will send marshals to beef up protection at recruiting centers — especially given the past targeting of military centers on campuses and elsewhere across the country.
Too early to say anything about suspect, motives, etc. But these facts are worth bearing in mind:
Flashback: Special report: Tracing the Left’s escalating war on military recruiters
Flashback: The continuing war on recruiters that the Left doesn’t want to talk about
Flashback: Document drop: Unclassified memo warns military personnel of anti-war threats to recruiters, Army installations/facilities
Flashback: Bastards: Vandals strike at Berkeley Marine recruiting center again
Flashback: Explosion at Times Square recruiting station; Update: Bloomberg blasts the blast; Update: Security video released; Update: House Dems received letters, photo of recruitment center; Fox reports maybe more than 8 received letters; AP says manifesto was anti-Iraq war screed, “Happy New Year, We did it;” Newsday: At least 10 got the package
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President Obama issued a statement yesterday after Tiller’s murder: “However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence.”
I hope he will be just as vociferous in condemning heinous acts of violence against our military recruiters.
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Meet Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad:
The shooting of two young soldiers, one fatally, outside the Army recruiting station on Rodney Parham about 10 a.m. this morning, has taken on a much broader dimension.
At an afternoon news conference, police said the man who’s suspected in the shooting did not know the victims but shot them because of “ideological reasons.” The suspect was described as a convert to Islam who specifically targeted soldiers for the attack.Police Chief Stuart Thomas said he didn’t appear to be part of a larger conspiracy and appeared to have acted alone.
“He has a disagreement with military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Thomas said.
Federal agencies are on the case.
The suspect, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, 24, lived on Mara Lynn Drive. He was formerly known as Carlos Bledsoe and apparently moved to Little Rock from Memphis two to three months ago. He also had lived in Nashville, Tenn. recently.
Police identified the dead soldier as Pvt. William Long, 24, of Conway. Wounded was Pvt. Quentin Ezeagwula, 18, of Jacksonville. He’s in serious condition, but isn’t believed to have life-threatening wounds.
ABC News says Muhammad traveled to Yemen using a Somali passport.
 


You do realize that Allah is basically the same as God and Yahweh?

They are all from the Abrahamic tradition, Christianity includes components of Judaism, and Islam includes components of Judaism and Christianity.

You would think the monotheists who actually believe in the SAME GOD would be more interested in fighting polytheists like Hindus or Sikhs. Or Atheists!

This thread is lame. It would be like posting pictures from Abu Ghraib and saying "Must have been the word of Christ"
 
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You do realize that Allah is basically the same as God and Yahweh?

You do realize the Bible and the Koran are two different books, right? That Islam and Christianity are two separate religions? I understand you think you're some type of religious expert or something, but there's a hell of a lot of difference between a Koran follower and Bible follower.

Christianity is compatible with Judaism in the sense that it is supposed to be its extension. Vice versa with Judaism. Islam, on the other hand, simply takes elements of both and twists them. Aside from that, there's no real similarity.

Christianity or Judaism do NOT advocate conversion by force. Nor do they advocate killing Jews. Nor do they advocate second-class status for infidels. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

The guy that murdered this soldier was a Muslim convert. Muslim converts read the Koran. It's basically a hatefilled book targeting anyone who doesn't adhere to it for death. Don't get your panties in a wad because the truth hurts.
 
Obama has serious sympathy for Muslims. Also, he is about to take a trip to the Arab World ... ( let's hope it's not more apologizing for America and Bowing to Islamic leaders...) not sure this particular President will condemn a Muslim for murdering these boys.

I still can't believe he got elected ...
 
You do realize the Bible and the Koran are two different books, right?
Yes, I have read them both.

That Islam and Christianity are two separate religions?
With the same God, with Jesus, with basically the same Old Testament.

I understand you think you're some type of religious expert or something, but there's a hell of a lot of difference between a Koran follower and Bible follower.
Followers? People are fucked up. I could tell you I am a Christian today, an atheist tomorrow and a Muslim on Friday.

What's sad here, is that Muslims and Christians are practically brothers compared to atheists and polytheists. They are going to the same place, and believe in the same God!

Christianity is compatible with Judaism in the sense that it is supposed to be its extension. Vice versa with Judaism. Islam, on the other hand, simply takes elements of both and twists them. Aside from that, there's no real similarity.
Have you read the Koran?

Christianity or Judaism do NOT advocate conversion by force. Nor do they advocate killing Jews. Nor do they advocate second-class status for infidels. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
These are generally from loose, out of context translations. Again, have YOU read the Koran?

The guy that murdered this soldier was a Muslim convert. Muslim converts read the Koran. It's basically a hatefilled book targeting anyone who doesn't adhere to it for death. Don't get your panties in a wad because the truth hurts.
See, that is disingenuous. I'm fairly certain you have not read the Koran, because if you did, it's got massive swathes of the Bible in it.

So the guy was a convert. I am sure some of the people in the Abu Ghraib photos go to church.

Even the Pentagon doesn't believe this stuff about radical Islam. They understand the issue is geo-political. But traditionally, this is how you fire up popular consent. You make 1. something or 2. something billion Muslims all fanatical murderers trained to kill Christians.

I've already debunked that whole suicide attacker thing here at least twice, using a PENTAGON EXPERT as my source.

Why do I care? It would be great if everyone could stop killing everyone else before we end up with no freedoms, no internet and no future.

I just thought your title sucked. It betrays a lack of knowledge about your own faith and the faith of others. That's the sort of ignorance the mullahs exploit in the middle east, and the sort of ignorance the hawks exploit in the west.

Fear, fear, hatred and fear.
 
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Obama has serious sympathy for Muslims.
Obama only has sympathy for one thing. Power. He doesn't care about Christians or Muslims. He doesn't care about poor blacks or military service men. He doesn't care about children or the elderly.

He is strictly concerned with his own self-aggrandizement and power.
 
You do realize that Allah is basically the same as God and Yahweh?

They are all from the Abrahamic tradition, Christianity includes components of Judaism, and Islam includes components of Judaism and Christianity.

You would think the monotheists who actually believe in the SAME GOD would be more interested in fighting polytheists like Hindus or Sikhs. Or Atheists!

This thread is lame. It would be like posting pictures from Abu Ghraib and saying "Must have been the word of Christ"


Clearly you have no fucking idea about Islam whatsoever. So how about choking on some shut-the-fuck-up?
 
I was raised to believe in the good book. Along the way, I came across muslims, different sects of Christianity, atheists and science fiction.

So I am mostly agnostic now. I acknowledge that if there is an almighty, I am probably not capable of understanding him/it anymore than an ant is able to perceive the nature of a human.

As I have got older, I have got back into understanding religion. So I read the Koran, and now I am boning up on Judaism. It's a curiosity for me.

But what strikes me, is that no matter what the religion, fanatics always want to kill each other. Religion just provides some moral frame around it (good/bad).

You would think that the only real holy war for monotheists (Jews, Christians and Muslims) would be against the infidels (unbelievers), not the people of "relatively" compatible books. In other words, it would kinda sorta make sense to have a war on atheists.

I'd just like to see peace. It's good for the businesses of everyone except the death dealers. Peacetime always brings massive increases in material wealth, and wealth helps solve a lot of the world's problems.
 
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Silly guerilla, this is 2009. The Christians are no longer "Murderers in the name of God," its the Muslims now!

If Christianity were still the most violent religion in the world, most of us would be Muslim or something else! Duh.

Last time I checked it was a crazy Christian that killed that abortion doctor.

Any violence in the name of "God" and "morality" is stupid.
 
With the same God, with Jesus, with basically the same Old Testament.

Muslims and Christians are practically brothers

they believe in the same God!

That must be some rigid mentality you have to have read the Koran and still spout nonsense like that. Let me hit you with some verses you might have missed while you were affirming your preconceptions to yourself.

Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
Slay them wherever ye find them - nice. Must be 'out of context', right?

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Ahh, juicy. Whoever doesn't believe in Allah should be 'murdered' or 'crucified' or their 'hands and feet should be cut off'. Must have some real contextual nuance there...

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
And here's an explicit command from their 'holy book' COMMANDING them to 'strike of the heads' of those who 'disbelieve' Islam. Did you miss that one when you were busy studiously poring over your Koran copy?

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
And here's another direct command to 'fight those who don't believe in Allah'. What you and other 'infidels' like you don't understand is that YOU ARE ALREADY AT WAR - you're just unwilling to see it. There are those who wish to fight you based simply on your beliefs. And I'm not talking about rhetorical or verbal battles, but physical violence intended to subdue and dominate you.

Muslims and Christians are practically brothers..

I'll address this Whopper by quoting the Koran itself.

Qur'an (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
The Jews say this, and the Christians say that - 'may Allah destroy them!'
Yup - sounds like they're 'practically brothers' who 'believe in the same thing'. Hit the nail on the head.

And here's some more from Muslims supplementary religious book, the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
And yet another verse COMMANDING its adherents to literally kill an entire race based simply on their ethnicity.

These are generally from loose, out of context translations.

I'll leave you with another 'loose, out of context' translation, this one from the 'prophet' Muhammed himself.

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
 
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