Y U no talk about ferguson?



VICE Stream is up:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24e6RfL_jbg"]VICE News: Live From the Streets of Ferguson, Missouri - YouTube[/ame]


Tim is in the media zone for now, but another crew is going to where the shooting in STL happened today.
 
I don't even know, what are the protester's demands? Obviously, they want to see that white cop get life in prison, but what else?
 
What do we want?

JUSTICE


When do we want it?

NOW

No Justice No Peace, No racist police.
 
They are demanding the return of Grammy award winning recording artist Michael McDonald, to headline an epic music festival in his hometown of Ferguson, Missouri.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnjEzx7Glr8[/ame]
 
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shit popping off again, started with someone throwing a water bottle at police.
 
At this point I'm only casually paying attention at all just in case this starts to turn into something much bigger with lots of out-of-towners fighting fedcoats.

The international press making fun of us is amusing though... Otherwise it's just a boring, baited-race-riot, like everything else Jesse Jackson shows up to.
 
meet #officergofuckyourself who wants to kill a citizen journalist.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zbR824FKpU"]#OfficerGoFuckYourself Threatens to Kill Ferguson Livestreamers - YouTube[/ame]
 
The millitary doesnt even do crazy shit like what happened with #officergofuckyourself

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at least he had good trigger discipline.
 
meet #officergofuckyourself who wants to kill a citizen journalist.

#OfficerGoFuckYourself Threatens to Kill Ferguson Livestreamers - YouTube

I'm torn on this type of thing. For one, this guy obviously a) shouldn't be on the force, or b) at the very least, shouldn't be working in a crowd control environment. He got scared, nervous, and threatened, but (thankfully) didn't actually do anything wrong. Pointing him out as a bad guy is like pointing out some angry protester yelling fits of rage, but doesn't actually do any harm.

Thing that leaves me torn is, you do realize in many other countries the amount of looting and violence that has taken place would have been very minimal, right? So... which is right, which is wrong? You have to realize, majority of residents there are just sitting in there homes, waiting for this to blow over, right? So do you side with the angry mob on the streets and their right to assemble / free speech / so on, or everyone else sitting in their homes waiting for the day they decide it's peaceful to go out at night again?

If the govt wanted to (and what many govts would have done), they would have simply said, "tomorrow 10am, make sure you've evacuated this area". 10am the next morning, they would have blocked the entire area in with APCs, pumped out tear gas like it was machine gun fire, arrested hundreds of people and sent them to FEMA camps for a few weeks / months without charge / trial / family notification, probably killed a few dozen, etc. For the next few weeks, you'd probably see APCs and armed soldiers stationed at intersections & malls, checkpoints all around, etc.

However, 12 hours after that 10am operation started, everything would have been 100% safe and peaceful again.
 
Percentage of whites killed out of total white population: 0.0001
Percentage of blacks killed out of total black population: 0.0005

I don't know what youre point was UG.

My point was exactly what I said: more whites are killed by police than blacks. That's it, that was my point.

I didn't address the rate because a lot of things can factor into that (poverty, crime, etc). The reason I addressed the raw numbers was because based on what we see in the media, it's only blacks being killed by police. I can't remember the last time I saw an uproar over a white person being killed by a cop, even though it happens far more often.

That's it, that's the point. Doesn't that seem odd to you, that we only make a big deal when we can drum up racial animosity?

It was the same shit with Trayvon. Thousands of young black men are killed in this country every year, but it only becomes a national fucking tragedy on the very rare instance when he is killed by an "almost white" (close enough) person. It's almost as if we're saying Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown are only important because they were killed by white people, and all the other thousands of blacks that are killed every year by other blacks, well their lives only matter to their family.

What the fuck is up with that? Why is there such a priority based on the shooter, and not the victim. Why does it only matter if a white person pulls the trigger? Is it the "man bites dog" aspect of the story, or is it something more nefarious?

So yes, I find it odd. I'm willing to bet you didn't know that more white people are killed by cops than black people until I posted that. And that's not your fault, because that's the narrative being pushed in the media.

So my only question is, why do you think that is?
 
I can't even watch this shit. Faggot-ass, white cunt liberals carrying out their liberal agenda in front of America.
 
That's it, that's the point. Doesn't that seem odd to you, that we only make a big deal when we can drum up racial animosity?

It was the same shit with Trayvon. Thousands of young black men are killed in this country every year, but it only becomes a national fucking tragedy on the very rare instance when he is killed by an "almost white" (close enough) person. It's almost as if we're saying Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown are only important because they were killed by white people, and all the other thousands of blacks that are killed every year by other blacks, well their lives only matter to their family.

What the fuck is up with that? Why is there such a priority based on the shooter, and not the victim. Why does it only matter if a white person pulls the trigger? Is it the "man bites dog" aspect of the story, or is it something more nefarious?

So yes, I find it odd. I'm willing to bet you didn't know that more white people are killed by cops than black people until I posted that. And that's not your fault, because that's the narrative being pushed in the media.

So my only question is, why do you think that is?

You answered your own question

That shit gets more views, clicks, etc. Many folks also still blindly accept the narrative presented to them by mass media as the only narrative, or at least the primary one. Then the positive feedback cycle begins (turbocharged by confirmation bias triggered by the presented narrative) and CNN makes a shitload of money.

Some of these networks are doing a pretty impressive job at obfuscating their own stance on the issue to the point where they're openly appealing to the biases of multiple, conflicting groups.

That's what happens when broadcasters realize that their ratings and their revenue are largely exclusive of one another.