Question to all the atheists?

lincolndsp said:
why Earth got so precisely situated in space that anything beyond a few hundred thousand miles has nothing to live and impossible to survive despite evilution and adaptation to the environment?
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Earth didn't get precisely situated for fucksakes. There are hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy like our sun. Each star has planets orbiting it.

There are HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF GALAXIES in the visible universe, each with hundreds of billions of stars of its own.

The current estimate of the number of stars in the universe is 9 sextillion, that is 9000000000000000000000 fucking stars!

With that many stars, there are going to be a fuckload of planets in the universe situated in exactly the right spot for life to flourish. We happen to be on one of those potentially millions or billions of planets. Refer to the drake equation for a better estimate.
 
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lincolndsp said:
you have been discrediting religion with facts, ok, no problem.
then what facts would you support your own not proven on a grand scale hypotheses with?
facts???? for what?
that big bang that led to life only on Earth?
facts of evolution that happened only on Earth that lead to living species?
why no evolution led to life on Mars or Jupiter?
why Earth got so precisely situated in space that anything beyond a few hundred thousand miles has nothing to live and impossible to survive despite evilution and adaptation to the environment?
why no single life was detected on a gazillion of planets and galaxies that Hubble can reach out to?


so basicly atheism is a religion denying god, antigod religion. minus something cannot be zero, ok?
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I think you would lose "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader"... you are severely lacking an understanding of elementary school science.
 
dchuk said:
come on, find me a definition of the term "religious belief" that shows that atheism is one itself. I absolutely guarantee you can't. That's like saying those who don't believe in ghosts have a supernatural belief system.
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There are plenty of atheists who treat it like a religion. This thread is a great example.

You are right though, the definition of religion is "The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods".

So I'm ww wwwr wwwwwrrr wwwwwrong on atheism being a religious belief.

Personally, I can't tell the difference though, especially when some atheists act like they wouldn't object to burning religious people at the stake.

Now, the atheists who could care less. No, I wouldn't think of them as having a religious belief because they probably agree that anything is possible. They aren't going to unbible thump you black and blue until you either agree or escape.
 
lincolndsp said:
you have been discrediting religion with facts, ok, no problem.
then what facts would you support your own not proven on a grand scale hypotheses with?
facts???? for what?
that big bang that led to life only on Earth?
facts of evolution that happened only on Earth that lead to living species?
why no evolution led to life on Mars or Jupiter?
why Earth got so precisely situated in space that anything beyond a few hundred thousand miles has nothing to live and impossible to survive despite evilution and adaptation to the environment?
why no single life was detected on a gazillion of planets and galaxies that Hubble can reach out to?


so basicly atheism is a religion denying god, antigod religion. minus something cannot be zero, ok?
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQg8JKo_3ZQ"]Morbo windmill quote - YouTube[/ame]

and of course:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQuvwQ4y-k"]A Priest mocks creationism - YouTube[/ame]
 
This is probably another reason religious folk managed to get atheists so riled up. Some (many?) of them don't understand the very basics of the world we live in. Some of them even believe the Earth is only 6000 years old, and was created in 6 days. Have you ever been stuck in a conversation with someone like this? Fucken awkward, isn't it? How do you even respond? All you can really do is offer a deer-in-the-headlights stare.

Or how they'll say, "well, evolution isn't fact. it's just a theory, hence why it's called <i>theory of evolution</i>". Yeah, well gravity is just a theory too. I bet if you jump off the top of that skyscraper, the theory of gravity will prove to work just fine.
 
^^ where the heck did you see I said earth is only 6000 years old? or that earth was created in 6 days? i didn't even say what i believe in because it does not matter, all i did was question hypotheses science has no valid answers yet for and still atheists think otherwise. making atheists automatically equal to scientists is really a fucked up way.
 
Sorry, all Jebuses of the world were just aliens.

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In reality, a bunch of assholes enslaving the primitive minded to do whatever they felt like, and then leaving of boredom - way better explanation than Jebus. We did that with black people a couple of hundred years ago - so my theory is most recently proven one.

PS - Boy, is Islam going to feel dumb about ragging on Dr. Yakub when they realize THEY were the aliens.
 
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The Bible was written by people you don't know, hundreds of years ago. Why would you trust it to be literally true? People who think the Earth is 6000 years old have a serious mental problem and need help. Prominent religious representatives of various sects agree it is metaphorical. Don't eat pork? Don't mix cotton and polyester? Don't shave your beard? Kill women who don't cover their hair? Kill homosexuals? Kill people who say certain things? This is sick, xenophobic fear-mongering bullshit. These are the type people who bomb abortion clinics and kill people in the name of life, and they are to be feared because they are fucking nuts. I think these people are also in the minority. Unfortunately, they're so rabid, they can make a difference in society disproportionate to their numbers. (Westboro assholes.)

Then there are the nice people who enjoy the community that going to church brings them, and they embrace the spirit of the religious teachings without being rabid cunts. Unfortunately, they like this life so much that they want to make laws that tell me what I can or can't do, like buy alcohol on certain days of the week or what I can do to my own body, because they think it's for my own good. They can go fuck themselves if they want to legislate their morality over me. Laws should be predicated on universal, nonreligious rights, not your personal beliefs. Even if they don't personally make the laws, they vote idiots into office who want to control me.

I don't claim to know everything, but I do know I should not have my rights trod on by other people just because they think it's for my own good. Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. It's an assault on me when you start writing your beliefs on my money, in my government pledges, and in my judicial proceedings; when you make a woman a criminal for wanting to control her own body; when you attempt to teach magical thinking to young children in government funded classrooms; when you make me pay for your bullshit with my taxes.
 
lincolndsp said:
why no single life was detected on a gazillion of planets and galaxies that Hubble can reach out to?
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We're you really under the impression that Hubble can zoom in that close on other solar systems or did you think it was some type of stargate device?
 
Originally Posted by lincolndsp
why no single life was detected on a gazillion of planets and galaxies that Hubble can reach out to?
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FROM THE WIFE -

Crispy: Ladies and Gentlemen, I present one of the most intelligent persons alive. This man knows exactly how large the universe is and he has ruled out the possiblity of life, aside from on Earth, in its entirety.



my+mind+is+full+of+fuck
 
Everywhere atheists turn they are bombarded by religious propaganda.

Most that say things online are just basically trolling because it is so easy to get a rise out of you and others.

Give up move on make money, be happy and STFU.
 
seous said:
Question to all the athetists as well... What do you think happens after you die?
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I'd like to hear what you think happens when I die and why.

I do like the idea of an afterlife - but I find the idea of one a little too hard to grasp at the moment to be able to subscribe to.

What is heaven? Popular culture has not painted an appealing picture of it for me. Angels, harps, clouds? I've got nothing against clouds, but as for places to live they fail to break into my top 10.

And hell? Does it still exist? Is there still an admissions process where I will be judged and have to pass a moral examination of my life led? Is it just humans in heaven and hell - if so what happens to the animals - there's more of them than us, what is the meaning of their lives? Are there cavemen in heaven? It all becomes too much for my head especially when judging the behaviour and actions of individuals from a "nature Vs nurture" perspective against accountability.

If I look at it in a different way, no judgement, no hell, no clouds, angels or harps, just some great, perfect place, I still don't know what I'm signing up for here, it's all too vague, I want details/a brochure.

What defines the person comes from being a physical entity that exists and interacts within this particular physical environment around us. Food, drink, sex, music, books, travel, work... Pleasure, displeasure, pain, boredom, the satisfaction of making the moniez, the dissatisfaction at getting hit by the google hammer - do all these things exist in the next life?

Looking at it from a more general perspective, and going with something along the lines of: "when we die we transcend the physical world and enter an eternal state of...... what??". I don't see any way of that what defines me - a simple human animal that responds to physical and emotional stimulus - existing in an alternative state of being.

Why do human beings deserve to be eternally preserved? Because our species has developed a slightly elevated level of intelligence? Because we falsely see ourselves as highly moral beings?
 
I don't call myself atheist because asserting any conviction without evidence (however retarded the claims to the contrary may be) is ignorant. Also, when you take religion out ot the discussion, atheism sounds increasingly like a know-it-all arrogant dipshit premise. I certainly am irreligious and deeply contemptuous of all religions except Buddhism (and also contemptuous of the mysticism in Buddhism), and I care to mock the religious because:


  • They promote the idea that belief in itself without a sound rationale should be respected. Fuck that. I don't respect bullshit.
  • They expect special treatment. Just because you are part of an organized religion doesn't make you immune from debate or criticism.
  • They typically never outgrow pop culture and conventional standards of "fitting in".
 
Supergeek said:
That's the thing; religious zealots have put their own crazy people in power for thousands of years, and are minding my business for me.
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Don't worry humanity still hasn't really "come of age" yet. With backward shits like the Burqa-clad Muslims in Middle Eastern countries and sub saharan Africans who still lack a written language, there is still much potential for progress ;) (not to forget the US Bible belt, or those re-incarnating Hindus)

The good news is that all statistics point to the correlation of religion and low IQ, and lack of religion with development. The percentage of the non religious is highest in countries with the highest HDIs.
 
I was going to post an opinion. But I held myself back.

Why can't we all just get along? Dummies are people too!
 
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